Who would the Flames buyout on the 1 non-cap buy out

[ricardodw]

If the latest offer were to be accepted I think that the cap drops from 70M to 60M and each team is allowed one "free" buyout.... that doesn't count against the cap..

Which contract would the Flames like to get of the books?


Cammalleri 1 year left 6M hit
Hudler 3 years @ 4M
Tanguay 3 yrs @ 3.5
Stajan 1 yr @ 3.5
Glencross 1 year @2.55
Stempniak 1 yr @ 2.5
Bouwmeester 1 year @ 6.68
Wideman 4 yrs @ 5.25
Giordano 3 yrs @ 4.02
Sarich 1 year @ 2
Kipper 1 year @ 5.83

Cammelleri/Bouwmeester/Wideman/Gio/Hudler and Kipper seem to be the ones that get the Flames down the most of the 8-10M they will need to drop..... that is if they plan to re-sign Iginla.

All the teams close to the cap will be in the same position needing to drop 10M in bad contracts so there will be some talented previously overpaid replacements to be had on the cheap.

[HPLovecraft]

J-Bo?

[memphusk]

If this scenario comes to play, I believe it would be in the teams best interest to hang onto Jay and trade him at the deadline if need be. Better off to get something for him, than give him a cheque and let someone else sign him for a lower cap hit. Needless to say I would look at this differently if he had 3 or more years hounding the team.

[EVERLAST]

seems to me the past couple of seasons Stempniak, Stajan have drawn the most hatred with Jbo not far behind.

I cant help but see Jbo excel under a new coach and philosophy which is very intriguing ....Bou is a welcome addition to many teams in the league whether people wanna believe or not

[Northendzone]

For the guys with one year left, does that mean just the balance of this shortened season, or the shortened season, plus the next?

If it is the former, then would you want to buy out anyone who only has 1 shortened year left?

[moon]

I would like them to use it on Wideman but unlikely that they do that after just signing him to that deal.

If they carry contracts over then I would assume they would void Stajan's based on how they treated him last season.

If the contracts count for this year I can't see them cutting anyone since they signed most of the deals and Feaster doesn't seem like a guy that would admit he made a mistake.

[killer_carlson]

Id want that union schill, charity golf tournament lying overpaid stajan gone.

Buying him out is too good though. I want the flames to sign a development deal in a semi pro league in albania and assign the guy there.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

For the guys with one year left, does that mean just the balance of this shortened season, or the shortened season, plus the next?

If it is the former, then would you want to buy out anyone who only has 1 shortened year left?

yeah that's the question in my mind too. Seems there are not that many bad contracts anymore.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by memphusk

If this scenario comes to play, I believe it would be in the teams best interest to hang onto Jay and trade him at the deadline if need be. Better off to get something for him, than give him a cheque and let someone else sign him for a lower cap hit. Needless to say I would look at this differently if he had 3 or more years hounding the team.

He has a no trade contract and all of the other high spending teams... will be forced to dump salary. There will be no viable trading partner for a year of Jaybo at 6.68 M.

The rest of the league will be saying once the Flames buy him out they could sign him at 3 M. .....

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

For the guys with one year left, does that mean just the balance of this shortened season, or the shortened season, plus the next?

If it is the former, then would you want to buy out anyone who only has 1 shortened year left?

the shortened season, plus the next

The next is the crunch time where the cap goes down 10M.

[Clever_Iggy]

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[mikephoen]

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[bubbsy]

I hope it is stajan.

If not i hope stajan is riding buses in the AHL or elsewhere next season.

How players like him/horcoff were willing to push this season to a brink is darn right hilarious, especially, when they come out of it without a place in the NHL.

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

How players like him/horcoff were willing to push this season to a brink is darn right hilarious, especially, when they come out of it without a place in the NHL.

Don't forget our old pal Ron Hainsey making 4.5 a year with the Jets! One of Don Waddell's bad contracts.

And I agree if it's anyone it has to be Stajan.

Bouwmeester still has trade value, so I doubt Feaster would chose him.

Hudler, Wideman, and Stempniak were just signed, so what has changed in a few months for the Flames to amnesty them?

I would say Babchuk would be an obvious candidate, but he is done after this season anyway.

So all that really leaves is Stajan, but it's too bad we have to use the clause on someone with only a year left on his contract anyway,

[dammage79]

According to CapGeek.com The Flames will be sitting @45m commited to payroll leaving 15m to spend on rounding out the roster (assuming the cap does in fact get lowered to 60m).

Rfa's, Backlund, T.J Brodie, Bouma and Butler.

Ufa's, Iggy, Comeau, Babchuk, Karlsson, Cervenka.

Is there really a need to use the buyout for the Flames? Not really IMO, just a chance to rid themselves of a terrible contract like Stajan's (even though he will only have one year left).

It would be interesting to see which players would be bought out from other teams. Like Lecavalier, Luongo, Kovalchuk, and any other ridiculous contract.

[AR_Six]

Bouwmeester's contract was terrible, but now the term has mostly come off and he still has trade value. You never buy out a guy with trade value. It's obviously Stajan.

[Sylvanfan]

Probably Stajan since his salary in terms of dollars will be 2.5 next year, and the pro rated amount of it for this year. Saves them more in cap, than it costs them in dollars.

With the cap potentially squeezing that much, Wideman's contract starts looking pretty bad. Flames will be in tough if that happens, and it's possible they won't have room ro resign Iginla. Although, he may be willing to do a one year deal, as all teams will likely be in a crunch.

[trackercowe]

Do you think it would be possible to use the clause to take on a bad contract from another team only to use your own buyout clause on them? Or might they make it contingent on only being allowed to buyout players that are currently on your roster?

So say you're the Canadiens who have multiple bad contracts plaguing your team. Could you say trade Kaberle to the Flames so they could use their one time buyout clause on him? That way the Flames might be able to acquire some decent prospects/picks for just buying out a player. That way this clause is more lucrative for the teams who don't have that one bad contract that needs to be bought out.

[Yrebmi]

It would depend on the length of the window to choose whom the buyout is.
Ideally you would want to see all the players under new coaching perform and take into account the advice of said coaching.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Do you think it would be possible to use the clause to take on a bad contract from another team only to use your own buyout clause on them? Or might they make it contingent on only being allowed to buyout players that are currently on your roster?

So say you're the Canadiens who have multiple bad contracts plaguing your team. Could you say trade Kaberle to the Flames so they could use their one time buyout clause on him? That way the Flames might be able to acquire some decent prospects/picks for just buying out a player. That way this clause is more lucrative for the teams who don't have that one bad contract that needs to be bought out.

If there is a shortened season I don not see why not. But I doubt many will do that.