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Old 12-08-2016, 02:17 PM   #1921
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True. But "eventually" and "immediate" are pretty much polar opposites. The team had a pretty significant adjustment period before their run to the cup.
Okay, fair enough but at the same time he had to come in cold. He didnt get a few months to get to know his players or an entire pre-season to establish his system or a few games to set his roster either.
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Old 12-08-2016, 02:25 PM   #1922
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I'm going to disagree. He had no idea what his ideal lineup was on opening night, slotting in guys like Grossman, who was subsequently bounced out of the league, and mixing his lines all over the place and constantly changing his defensive pairings.

This was due in part to not adequately using his pre-season opportunities to hone both his roster and his systems.

And further, your example of the Pittsburgh Penguins? Not even remotely the same thing, Mike Johnston was fired after 28 games and replaced by Mike Sullivan and then there was an almost immediate and meteoric improvement.
How about Trotz as an example? A clearly acknowledged good coach, it took him at least 20 games to get the Caps playing his way.

GG was hampered by not having his star player in camp at all, and having Monahan out for a good chunk as well. Elliott didn't play well off the bat, which wasn't a bonus for sure (and there was every reason at the beginning of the season to play Elliott over Johnson, who'd had a pretty mediocre preseason).
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I just sat down and watched the Flyers score 3 goals in about one minute.......lol
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I would bet that Edmonton's metrics are no good.
1) What round was he picked in
2) How many Giordanos is he worth
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Old 12-08-2016, 07:44 PM   #1925
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Good loss, good loss.

Will the flames pass the oilers by the end of December? Discuss...
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Old 12-08-2016, 07:50 PM   #1926
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Stopped watching after Edmonton went up 2-0, turned it back on to see Philly up 3-2. immediately after I turn on the game oilers score, I watch until edm goes up 5-3 then say screw this and find out edm loses 6-5. I think I am their lucky charm I shall not watch anymore of their games
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Wow. Oil sure blew that one.
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Old 12-08-2016, 08:00 PM   #1929
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Stopped watching after Edmonton went up 2-0, turned it back on to see Philly up 3-2. immediately after I turn on the game oilers score, I watch until edm goes up 5-3 then say screw this and find out edm loses 6-5. I think I am their lucky charm I shall not watch anymore of their games
This was the same with me. And same thing in the Buffalo game too. Caught only the Edmonton goals, none of the Sabres or Flyers'. Every time I'd flip it back on the opposing team got a couple. I think that's a hint for me (/us) to just not tune into Oiler games any more.

Have to say it's entertaining with results like these though. E=NG
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When dog poop meets roomba = when Edmonton oilers meet the ice.

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Good loss, good loss.

Will the flames pass the oilers by the end of December? Discuss...
Try the end of the week.
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Old 12-08-2016, 08:11 PM   #1932
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McDavid called #Flyers' Brandon Manning "classless" postgame, said Manning hinted on ice collarbone fracture last year was no accident
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Old 12-08-2016, 08:14 PM   #1933
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Good loss, good loss.

Will the flames pass the oilers by the end of December? Discuss...
How about next week?
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Old 12-08-2016, 08:16 PM   #1934
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McDavid called #Flyers' Brandon Manning "classless" postgame, said Manning hinted on ice collarbone fracture last year was no accident
McDavid should shut up about what's said on ice.
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Old 12-08-2016, 08:17 PM   #1935
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Meh i doubt it was intentional it happened way to fast. It was just trash talk on the ice and looked like Manning did get into Mcdavids head.
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Old 12-08-2016, 08:18 PM   #1936
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McDavid and Draisaitl keep scoring. Oilers keep losing. Excellent.

Those second contracts are going to be brutal for Edmonton's salary cap.
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McDavid and Draisaitl keep scoring. Oilers keep losing. Excellent.

Those second contracts are going to be brutal for Edmonton's salary cap.
Lucic contracts gonna be brruuuuuutaaaaal
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Old 12-08-2016, 08:27 PM   #1938
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Lucic contracts gonna be brruuuuuutaaaaal
Haha it already is but will be doubly so when McDavid commands $11 million and Draisatl commands $6 million.
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Old 12-08-2016, 08:29 PM   #1939
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plus you have 30 point defensive stalwart nuge making 6 on the third line
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Old 12-08-2016, 08:33 PM   #1940
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thats not all that bad...$39m in their top 6 forwards
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