Federal Election Called for Oct 19, 2015

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

Crap? Looking at the pic, is there anything in there that is not true? I suggest you look into it, those quotes are accurate.

Hey, just because your safe on the beach surferguy, it does not mean that others are safe. It depends on your environment, i don;t need to be as worried about sharks as you do...

In terms of terrorist acts, you really only see the tip of the iceburg.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

Crap? Looking at the pic, is there anything in there that is not true? I suggest you look into it, those quotes are accurate.

Hey, just because your safe on the beach surferguy, it does not mean that others are safe. It depends on your environment, i don;t need to be as worried about sharks as you do...

In terms of terrorist acts, you really only see the tip of the iceburg.

Where do you live, or what do you do that makes you unsafe as it relates to ISIS?

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

Crap? Looking at the pic, is there anything in there that is not true? I suggest you look into it, those quotes are accurate.

Hey, just because your safe on the beach surferguy, it does not mean that others are safe. It depends on your environment, i don;t need to be as worried about sharks as you do...

In terms of terrorist acts, you really only see the tip of the iceburg.

Would you care to elaborate on this? What exactly are you referring to?

[Doodlebug]

Originally Posted by flylock shox

At first, I really thought Trudeau was hopeless as a candidate for PM. I still see him as the weakest of the 3 but the simple truth is we don't have a presidential system in Canada, and the leader simply isn't as important here as he is in the US. The party is more important than its leader, and that's particularly true with the Liberals where Trudeau is likely less responsible for setting policy and direction.

I would argue a Canadian Prime Minister wields much more governing authority than a US President.

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-co...too-much-power

[Looch City]

Things are looking grim for Harper if he wins a minority...

Tom Mulcair has joined Justin Trudeau in ruling out any circumstances in which his party might help prop up Stephen Harper if Conservatives are re-elected but with only a minority of seats.

"There isn't a snowball's chance in hell," Mulcair said Wednesday.

"I think that anybody who's attended a single question period over the course of the last several years would be able to tell you that there's no likelihood that the NDP would, under any circumstance, be able to support Mr. Harper."

"There are no circumstances in which I would support Stephen Harper to continue being prime minister of this country," Trudeau said.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cana...ders-1.3238875

I'll be most likely voting Liberal, but I'd be good with either NDP or Liberal minority. Atleast there's some common ground between the two while Harper and his CPC are getting further away from reality.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

Things are looking grim for Harper if he wins a minority...

That's what they have to say... but really IMO there is a 0.00000% chance that no one would allow him to get past at least one confidence motion. If it comes to it one of them will buckle and either abstain en masse (and thus "not support" by "not voting with him") in the name of not having an election that the people don't want or they'll claim to have extracted consessions and thus can live with whatever it is that's being voted on (again in the name of not having an election that the people don't want).

We're not getting another election for at least a year regardless of the outcome.

[Jacks]

Unless it's a virtual 3 way tie I can't see winning party getting taken down right away.

Hypothetical
CPC - 130 seats
NDP - 110 seats
LIB - 95 seats
I think it's more likely the Libs creatively abstain for a year then force another election than it is they support Mulcair as PM. If the NDP form government it legitimizes them and that is bad for the Libs.

If the Libs win more seats than the NDP I could see a coalition forming with the NDP getting cabinet seats but that's about it and it would have to be a weak CPC minority. Mind you things have been silly in politics lately so who knows.

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Uh oh! Look who opened their mouth and said something stupid again;

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/just...list-1.3238441



Sounds to me like Justin doesn't think as highly of black men or their choice in music. Now I can't say if the man is racist or not but he's a privileged person that didn't grow up around minorities and probably doesn't have a good handle on why those comments come off poorly. If I'm a minority I don't feel too good about him talking about certain communities and types of music like this as we all know what he's talking about here and it appears he's not very sensitive to the stereotypes. Lets hope we can avoid the disaster.

[killer_carlson]

threehundredeight.com individual riding info is pretty crazy to watch.

in particular, watch the Lethbridge riding which swings back and forth from the NDP to the CPC each day.

In Alberta there seems to be a slow trend towards CPC amongst those ridings which were runaways for the Libs or the NDP a month ago.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

threehundredeight.com individual riding info is pretty crazy to watch.

in particular, watch the Lethbridge riding which swings back and forth from the NDP to the CPC each day.

In Alberta there seems to be a slow trend towards CPC amongst those ridings which were runaways for the Libs or the NDP a month ago.

I don't really trust 308's riding projections. I think their methods are flawed.

[burn_this_city]

NDP airhead doesn't know what Auschwitz was.

I'm amazed people like this exist, she's a school trustee with a Masters' degree.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilt...witz-1.3241065

[starseed]

It is ridiculous enough on it's own, and then you see some of her past tweets:

“@PeelSchools: Peel board students learn, reflect on Holocaust http://bit.ly/uQDdrw ” Great to hear!

Deborah Brown receives award @HWDSB for her instruction in Holocaust Edu. "I now know what needs to change in the world" student #HamOnt

Forget the candidate, this is a failure of McMaster University, and the public education system. Something this important should never be forgotten.

[RougeUnderoos]

Ugh. Politics aside, how can you not at least have heard of this in your everyday life? Even from a mainstream movie or something?

[c.t.ner]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I don't really trust 308's riding projections. I think their methods are flawed.

I wouldn't. 308 was one of the first outlets to predict that historically PC Blue ridings in Calgary during the Provincial Election were going to turn NDP Orange.

[flylock shox]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

NDP airhead doesn't know what Auschwitz was.

I'm amazed people like this exist, she's a school trustee with a Masters' degree.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilt...witz-1.3241065

I hate incomplete journalism like this.

The curved concrete posts around Auschwitz support electrified and barbed wire fences. Those posts also exist elsewhere in Poland (I guess that was how you built a post back in the day there). If you were just looking at a photo of the posts you'd have no way of knowing it was a photo of Auschwitz unless someone told you that's what it was. The article only refers to her comments on the photo, and doesn't say that it was advertised as a photo of Auschwitz or, indeed, a photo of an electrified fence. So I don't really see how she can be criticized for commenting on the shape of a fence post without any surrounding context (unless you think her comments were really crude I guess).

As for not knowing what Auschwitz was, I suppose that could be forgiven too - a person could have a general knowledge of the Nazi concentration camps without knowing their particular names. I know I couldn't list them all.

Without more information about the original post she was commenting on, it looks like a tempest in a teapot to me, and another sign that social media is going to reshape politics one way or the other.

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by flylock shox

I hate incomplete journalism like this.



The curved concrete posts around Auschwitz support electrified and barbed wire fences. Those posts also exist elsewhere in Poland (I guess that was how you built a post back in the day there). If you were just looking at a photo of the posts you'd have no way of knowing it was a photo of Auschwitz unless someone told you that's what it was. The article only refers to her comments on the photo, and doesn't say that it was advertised as a photo of Auschwitz or, indeed, a photo of an electrified fence. So I don't really see how she can be criticized for commenting on the shape of a fence post without any surrounding context (unless you think her comments were really crude I guess).



As for not knowing what Auschwitz was, I suppose that could be forgiven too - a person could have a general knowledge of the Nazi concentration camps without knowing their particular names. I know I couldn't list them all.



Without more information about the original post she was commenting on, it looks like a tempest in a teapot to me, and another sign that social media is going to reshape politics one way or the other.

Sorry, but it seems that you are really reaching here, to support her.

I would expect a social worker with a master's degree to have heard about and know what Auschwitz was.

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by Ironhorse

Sorry, but it seems that you are really reaching here, to support her.

I would expect a social worker with a master's degree to have heard about and know what Auschwitz was.

AND a BA in Social Justice and Peace Studies. Is that even real? And it never once mentions Auschwitz? I suppose she could always go back to teaching.

[flylock shox]

Originally Posted by Ironhorse

Sorry, but it seems that you are really reaching here, to support her.

I would expect a social worker with a master's degree to have heard about and know what Auschwitz was.

Oh, I'm not worried about supporting her. She could be a blithering idiot for all I know.

I just don't like it when an article doesn't present the whole story, or focuses on trivia rather than substance.

It's surprising what information slips through some people's educations. For example, when I moved out from Calgary, I was amazed how many people in BC had never heard of Adam Smith (when the topic of capitalism came up in conversation). Coming from Alberta I was totally blown away - he was presented as the counterpart of Karl Marx in my high school upbringing, a really well known historical figure. But there you go - not everyone gets the same education about everything.

And it really is trivia in the end. Whether or not she's heard of Auschwitz is way less significant that whether she's ever heard of the Nazi death camps and the Holocaust generally, and her views on same. But the article is incomplete there too.

I guess what I'm saying is that (1) we can't criticize her for making crude comments about Auschwitz because we don't even know if the photo she was commenting on was clearly identified as Auschwitz; and (2) we can criticize her for not knowing some basic trivia, but not for anything of substance like her views on Nazi death camps or the education of Canadians about the topic.

So basically the whole thing boils down to "she's a bad politician because she didn't know what Auschwitz was," which isn't very interesting really.

[rubecube]

I can understand not knowing that the picture was of Auschwitz but not know what Auschwitz was? Come on.

[OMG!WTF!]

"Ahhh, the infamous Pollish (sic), phallic, hydro posts … of course you took pictures of this! It expresses the how the curve is normal, natural, and healthy right!"

Kind of more offensive to the good folks at Ipsos and Nanos Research than Jews.