Elliot Friedman believes Treliving may not be back next season

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

No they weren't.

They kind of were. Boomer came back on and talked about what a show they were having, with Rhett's rant etc and suggested the listeners podcast it if they missed anything. They weren't specifically singling out the Friedman segment but the show overall.

[TheScorpion]

What the ####?

What is wrong with this organization?

[cofias]

Treliving certainly isn't perfect, but I would imagine he's far better than any feasible alternative. I mean who exactly are we going to replace him with? Another unproven young GM? Maloney? I just don't see how booting Tre would improve anything.

[drewtastic]

It would be strange for ownership to be so impatient, given the fact that the general fanbase is still seemingly okay with the way the overall rebuild is going...(or am I completely wrong on this?)

Taking a "wait-and-see" approach to this news...maybe things are mostly related to Treliving's contract situation, rather than overall vision for the rebuild...

[Flash Walken]

Owners make it really hard to continue to cheer for this team.

Not renewing treliving would be such a Flames thing to do.

Is there a Sutter out there that needs a job or something?

[MarkGio]

I could never believe a man like Burke could relinquish the helm of being the puppet master. The guy HAS to toot his own horn every time he's in front of a mic.

I'm not all surprised by this.

[Bingo]

added a poll and made it simple

didn't want to poll if people thought it was a good idea to go another way or not as I think guys would vote no but base that more on timing than an evaluation.

I'm thumbs down if they did this, makes you a mickey mouse franchise if you can't trust yourself to hire the right people and then let them do their jobs. Asinine.

[drewtastic]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

I could never believe a man like Treliving could relinquish the helm of being the puppet master. The guy HAS to toot his own horn every time he's in front of a mic.

I'm not all surprised by this.

[bubbsy]

thanks for adding the poll.

I'd have preferred a slightly different question though. "should the flames extend Treliving as flames GM?".

I don't think many, if any, GMs can be judged as a boolean "yes/no".....

For me personally, my answer to the current question as it is, is neither yes/no, but likely right in the middle. Yet, i do not think letting him go is a good idea (ie. i won't vote "yes" for this poll, yet, i do want him to be extended).

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by drewtastic

It would be strange for ownership to be so impatient, given the fact that the general fanbase is still seemingly okay with the way the overall rebuild is going...(or am I completely wrong on this?)

This is an ownership group that always seems to get it backwards. When it's painfully obvious to everyone that the team needs to be blown up, they hold out for half a decade trying to chase a dream that never was. And when it's time to be patient, they scramble around frantically looking for quick fixes.

[Igottago]

I am surprised by the news. I think he made a major mistake with replacing Hartley with a glorified assistant coach (this team needs an elite coach) but I also think he's been pretty sound in his roster management and trades overall. I think he deserves a chance to get this right.

[kukkudo]

I voted Yes. I just think the coaching part has been a disaster.

[TheScorpion]

Hey, remember when Stay Golden called Treliving "slime"?

[Toonage]

Overall I'm happy with him. As noted the roster management has been solid. Few bad contracts that didn't hurt the team. Coaching, up in the air. Drafting, hit and miss but ultimately who knows at this point.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

As to the comment about the clown show moving south, we had the clown show here already with Feaster/Weisbrod. Given the recurrence, the problem may be higher than GM level, in which case we are doomed...

I'm getting a really unpleasant feeling that Murray Edwards may be the problem. If that's the case then, yes, we're screwed.

Originally Posted by Table 5

A GM's job should always be to build a Stanley Cup winner, not to "get them into the playoffs". Building teams to get into the playoffs is how we wasted half a decade.

I'm also not a fan of hearing that the Flames are "unique in how they do things". This is not an organization that has a good enough track record for that to be a positive.

Yep. That's why I'm worried the issue is Edwards - a businessman with a massive ego who is used to doing things his own way. 'His own way' has worked in the energy industry. But considering his meddling may well go all the way back to putting off a rebuild trying to win a cup with Iginla for too many years, I'd say his own way when it comes to hockey has a terrible track record.

[Johnny Rotten]

Brian Burke said when he hired Treliving that young GM's need to "learn from their mistakes that young GM's make" (or words to that effect.

He hasn't made any major blunders*, in my opinion, so unless there is something going on with Treliving that the Flames really don't like, then I don't see how they can rid of so easily.


*I'm not sure yet if the coaching change was/is a big mistake.

[drewtastic]

Originally Posted by Table 5

This is an ownership group that always seems to get it backwards. When it's painfully obvious to everyone that the team needs to be blown up, they hold out for half a decade trying to chase a dream that never was. And when it's time to be patient, they scramble around frantically looking for quick fixes.

I tend to agree. In fact, it could be argued that it was the fan base clamoring for the "blow-up" long before the ownership group actually did it. So, maybe they continue to be out-of-touch-with and/or disregard the fan base's current sentiments.

Too bad, because I actually see a viable foundation with this team in terms of both core players and playing structure, going forward.

[Zulu29]

Voted yes, only issues I can really hang on him are Glue Gun, burying Raymond and Bollig and the three headed goalie monster last season. Far more positive moves than negative ones though.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

thanks for adding the poll.

I'd have preferred a slightly different question though. "should the flames extend Treliving as flames GM?".

I don't think many, if any, GMs can be judged as a boolean "yes/no".....

For me personally, my answer to the current question as it is, is neither yes/no, but likely right in the middle. Yet, i do not think letting him go is a good idea (ie. i won't vote "yes" for this poll, yet, i do want him to be extended).

Funny I went the other way for the exact opposite reason. I want it simple yes or no.

I think you can be anti-Treliving but not want him gassed because it makes the franchise look unstable.

But if you select yes in this poll, you certainly wouldn't let him go.

[rohara66]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

Just to add some context, he said he's "not 100% convinced Treliving will be back".

Said Calgary is comfortable letting his contract expire, then look at it. Most (if not all) other teams don't work that way, but Calgary does.

Exactly.

I listened to the entire piece this morning and I did not interpret anything that Elliott said as ‘Treliving will not be back” or ‘Treliving might not be back”.

Thread title is 100% misleading.