Jay Bouwmeester

[868904]

Originally Posted by you got PHANUEFED

Wow the haters have come out in full force what this team needs to do is send Iggy packin he's lookin old he wont even drive up the middle he carries the puck to out side every time and then stops to dump it off he's no longer a threat on the ice so his contract is starting to look like an over payment aswell.

He's been doing that for about 5 years now. His half court offense.

Iggy would be great with a guy like Joe THornton. Plays the same type of half court game.

I agree with you though. Love Iggy, but a change is needed. He's just not right for this team anymore.

He'd do great on a contender, but he can't be the guy here anymore. We've all seen the story here every year.

He struggles, people complain, he gets on a hot streak, scores a bunch. Gives the management team some hope that he can sustain it when it matters. Come crunch time, he does nothing, Flames miss the playoffs. Everyone talks about what to do with him in the offseason.

Only this year, if the FLames play the game the same way, they lose him for nothing.

I'm sure the Flames will be in contention for a playoff spot at the deadline and they will decide to hold onto him and the cycle will repeat itself.

[FAN]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Too many people that can't look past the dollars and judge his play based on his contract instead of what he actually does.

Flames fans have become pathetic. It's sickening. They can't even support their players anymore.

Why should anyone look past dollars? There is a salary cap. Do you expect a GM to look past the dollars? And why support a player who seemingly doesn't play with heart.

Keeping an overpaid player because there isn't a better option is not the way to improve a team. Sometimes it's better to take a step back before taking a step forward. Comparing Bouwmeester to Lidstrom because they are both not "physical players" is absolutely stupid. Lidstrom is a vastly superior player.

Originally Posted by Super-Rye

Hartley said he wanted Feaster to keep Bouwmeester on to team so he can work with him.

I hope that's not the only reason Feaster kept Bouwmeester on the team.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by you got PHANUEFED

Wow the haters have come out in full force what this team needs to do is send Iggy packin he's lookin old he wont even drive up the middle he carries the puck to out side every time and then stops to dump it off he's no longer a threat on the ice so his contract is starting to look like an over payment aswell.

iginla has definitely evolved passed the 'drive the play, drive to the net' type player he once was. He is more of just a sniper now. If he's the guy bringing the puck in and trying to create plays off his stick, then he's just with the wrong linemates, or his linemates aren't doing what they need to, in my opinion. During the SJ game, even last night, iginla did get into scoring areas but niemi just came up with the stops.

i haven't been overly concerned with iginla's game thus far. in fact, outside of cammalleri, i actually think the forwards have been relatively fine.

[1_Flames_Fan]

Wore my Bouwmeester jersey to the game last night. Thought maybe this early in the season I could get away with. I was sorely mistaken...

[Stay Golden]

The less Bouwmeester is on the ice the better the Flames chances are. He needs to be held accountable. He needs to face the media for his costly play and lack of any intensity.
Iginla is always on the media's target when the Flames are not winning.
Yes he is the Captain but this knob Bouwmeester is the 11th highest paid D man in the NHL and he just slimes his way out of the publics target.
It should be placed firmly on his forehead after every bad game.
Sutter refused to hold Bouwmeester accountable for anything.
Always your best players have to be your best players.
Code for blame Iginla, blame Tanguay, blame Cammilari. Who is your most prominent D man according to pay, who is the D man that was always getting more ice time...
Bouwmeester. He should wear the blame.
Its beyond the expiration date for holding this chump accountable for his detriment to the Calgary Flames.
Some fans bitched about Widemans 5m contract?
Wideman will accomplish more for the Flames in this 1/2 season than Bouwmeester has in 3 years.

[Change of Heart]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

The less Bouwmeester is on the ice the better the Flames chances are. He needs to be held accountable. He needs to face the media for his costly play and lack of any intensity.
Iginla is always on the media's target when the Flames are not winning.
Yes he is the Captain but this knob Bouwmeester is the 11th highest paid D man in the NHL and he just slimes his way out of the publics target.
It should be placed firmly on his forehead after every bad game.
Sutter refused to hold Bouwmeester accountable for anything.
Always your best players have to be your best players.
Code for blame Iginla, blame Tanguay, blame Cammilari. Who is your most prominent D man according to pay, who is the D man that was always getting more ice time...
Bouwmeester. He should wear the blame.
Its beyond the expiration date for holding this chump accountable for his detriment to the Calgary Flames.
Some fans bitched about Widemans 5m contract?
Wideman will accomplish more for the Flames in this 1/2 season than Bouwmeester has in 3 years.

You really have a hate on for J-Bo eh?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Change of Heart

You really have a hate on for J-Bo eh?

...at this stage, is there really any reason to like Bouwmeester?

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

...at this stage, is there really any reason to like Bouwmeester?

Maybe if you like to golf in spring?

EDIT: I think we are reaching the 20 year anniversary of the last time Bouwmeester made the playoffs?

[Weiser Wonder]

Last night is on Kiprusoff. Bouwmeester looked like a top 4 defenseman. Not good enough for the money, I suppose, but good enough to win with decent goaltending. You can't really look at minus stats when the goalie is consistently out of position and letting stoppable pucks go by.

[flamesaresmokin]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Bouwmeester post-game talking about "everyone running around, just need to do your own job"...talk into a mirror Mr. Can't win a battle in front of the net.

Funny because I distinctly remember bouwmeester saving a goal by out battling Selanne in front of the net last night.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

Maybe if you like to golf in spring?

If I personally liked to golf in the spring, I'd hate Bouwmeester even more. Dude is always taking up the prime tee times!

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by Change of Heart

You really have a hate on for J-Bo eh?

Beyond that. When you pay for ST and you see your team getting f#### over by their own wonderslug game after game its a matter of vindication.
I have said it before I hate hate hate him as much as VAN. They are known as
That other team on the coast in my household.
Everyone in my family hates Bouwmeester. My 95 year old Great Grandmother who still listens to Flames on 960 hates Bouwmeester. lol

[JazzyFlame]

If we had our same defence but with JayBo subtracted we would've finished below Edmonton last year.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin

Funny because I distinctly remember bouwmeester saving a goal by out battling Selanne in front of the net last night.

I distinctly remember him being beat by Ducks going wide on a number of occasions and losing battles in front of the net all night long as well.

[Vinny01]

I don't hate him like a lot of people but he certainly has been a massive failure in his time here.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I distinctly remember him being beat by Ducks going wide on a number of occasions and losing battles in front of the net all night long as well.

And to bolster your comments just a little bit more, Bouwmeester has been on the ice for 7 of the 9 goals the Flames have let in so far this year. And its only two games in!

Kipprusoff needs to shake these games off in a hurry or nothing anyone else on the team does will even matter. We go as Kipper goes.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by dammage79

And to bolster your comments just a little bit more, Bouwmeester has been on the ice for 7 of the 9 goals the Flames have let in so far this year. And its only two games in!

Kipprusoff needs to shake these games off in a hurry or nothing anyone else on the team does will even matter. We go as Kipper goes.

That means for roughly every 6 minutes of ice-time, a goal is scored with Bouwmeester on the ice.

I think it's crazy to assume that this won't improve over the season, but that is a terrible start for sure.

[CsInMyBlood]

Originally Posted by JazzyFlame

If we had our same defence but with JayBo subtracted we would've finished below Edmonton last year.

Yeah? How do you figure that? Last year Bouwmeester was on the ice for 105 goals against. That's good for third most goals against in the league. He also had the 11th worst +/- in the NHL last year, a grand total of 884 NHL players had a better +/- then him last season.

You obviously wouldn't subtract Bouwmeester without adding another Dman. $6.7M in salary could buy something decent. I honestly think (and have for awhile) that getting him off of this team is instant addition by subtraction.

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

Yeah? How do you figure that? Last year Bouwmeester was on the ice for 105 goals against. That's good for third most goals against in the league. He also had the 11th worst +/- in the NHL last year, a grand total of 884 NHL players had a better +/- then him last season.

You obviously wouldn't subtract Bouwmeester without adding another Dman. $6.7M in salary could buy something decent. I honestly think (and have for awhile) that getting him off of this team is instant addition by subtraction.

the stats tell the truth about jellyfish don't they.

[MotoRacer]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

...at this stage, is there really any reason to like Bouwmeester?

Exactly