2024/2025 Trade Rumours and Speculation thread

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The impression that I get out of Jersey is that they have competing factions, fighting on this front. The analytics guys are against pursuing Markstrom, and Brodeur (and I assume others) are lobbying hard for him.

Fitzpatrick is in the middle, sitting on his thumb.

His hissy fit after the deadline seems to indicate he wants him. He even said they are going goalie hunting in the offseason.

Is Nashville trading Saros after this incredible run and playoffs?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

His hissy fit after the deadline seems to indicate he wants him. He even said they are going goalie hunting in the offseason.

Is Nashville trading Saros after this incredible run and playoffs?

I am fairly confident that Nashville is going to keep Saros long term. The main market will be Markstrom and Ullmark.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

His hissy fit after the deadline seems to indicate he wants him. He even said they are going goalie hunting in the offseason.

Is Nashville trading Saros after this incredible run and playoffs?

Unless Saros wants out their asking price just went up. Markstrom is more affordable in comparison.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I am fairly confident that Nashville is going to keep Saros long term. The main market will be Markstrom and Ullmark.

Do you think Askarov might be in play at some point?

[butterfly]

Remember when Markstrom was worth Mercer + 1st at minimum?

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I am fairly confident that Nashville is going to keep Saros long term. The main market will be Markstrom and Ullmark.

I highly doubt it. They have their version of wolf down in the ahl right now.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I highly doubt it. They have their version of wolf down in the ahl right now.

I doubt they are intending to just throw Askarov in the deep end though. They either sign Saros as well (with a view to trading him down the road) or they trade Saros and bring in a veteran.

Thing is - the Preds aren't really in rebuild mode - so do they drop a 28 year old Saros and take a chance that way?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

With markstrom due a bonus after the draft, is there any chance the flames and devils could work out a deal for the devils first rounder prior to the draft? It would essentially involve 2 deals. One to send the pick to the flames at the draft and another to send Markstrom to the devils after the bonus is paid out

Nah, if the league didn't kill it then I still don't see New Jersey agreeing to a handshake deal to give away a high pick.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The impression that I get out of Jersey is that they have competing factions, fighting on this front. The analytics guys are against pursuing Markstrom, and Brodeur (and I assume others) are lobbying hard for him.

Fitzpatrick is in the middle, sitting on his thumb.

When Brodeur is #2 in your front office, his voice on goalie matters should prevail.

Wasn't Markstrom amazing at underlyling numbers? High danger save? I don't know goalie numbers that well, so i could be totally wrong.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I doubt they are intending to just throw Askarov in the deep end though. They either sign Saros as well (with a view to trading him down the road) or they trade Saros and bring in a veteran.

Thing is - the Preds aren't really in rebuild mode - so do they drop a 28 year old Saros and take a chance that way?

rumours are saros wants 8 years. I’m not sure how tradeable a goalie is going to be with at least 5 years left on his contract. Nashville has always made the tough decisions on what to do for future. Think they will trade saros and bring in vet to mentor Askarov. It’s the same thing flames should do with wolf if they trade Markstrom.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Nah, if the league didn't kill it then I still don't see New Jersey agreeing to a handshake deal to give away a high pick.

Happens in the NBA all the time.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

rumours are saros wants 8 years. I’m not sure how tradeable a goalie is going to be with at least 5 years left on his contract. Nashville has always made the tough decisions on what to do for future. Think they will trade saros and bring in vet to mentor Askarov. It’s the same thing flames should do with wolf if they trade Markstrom.

Big difference is Saros is only 28 and is a proven elite goalie.

Askarov is only 22 and has been good but not unreal at the AHL level.

Saros played 5 years with Rinne as his mentor after becoming the full time backup.

If Nashville re-signed Saros for 8 years and tried to trade him after 4 or 5 years he would be 35 and have 3 years left on his deal...pretty much the same situation as the Flames trying to move Markstrom now.

I think they try to re-sign him and have Askarov come up alongside him.

Askarov has played 3 NHL games and has a career .912 AHL save percentage...I don't think they are full committed to handing him the keys yet.

They have been the best team in the NHL for the last 25 games too...which might change their thoughts on trading him.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

rumours are saros wants 8 years. I’m not sure how tradeable a goalie is going to be with at least 5 years left on his contract. Nashville has always made the tough decisions on what to do for future. Think they will trade saros and bring in vet to mentor Askarov. It’s the same thing flames should do with wolf if they trade Markstrom.

Nashville is under new management. They have Forsberg, Josi, McDonough and ROR under long term deals. Plus Schenn, Scissons, etc on shorter term ones.

Frankly, I don't know where they think they are in the team buidling timeline. But Askarov is pretty much where Gillies was at the same time of development and look how that turned out.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Nashville is under new management. They have Forsberg, Josi, McDonough and ROR under long term deals. Plus Schenn, Scissons, etc on shorter term ones.

Frankly, I don't know where they think they are in the team buidling timeline. But Askarov is pretty much where Gillies was at the same time of development and look how that turned out.

Plus look at Barry Trotz coached teams.

Vokoun / Dunham
Vokoun / Mason
Rinne / Ellis
Rinne / Hutton
Holtby / Grubauer
Lehner / Greiss
Varlamov / Sorokin

If there is a guy that has a long history of slowly working in young goalies, and believing in having tandem goaltenders it's Barry Trotz. Then add on top of that Nashville as an organization also really has a history of tandem goalies and letting the young goalie learn from the incumbent, and did it under Poile all the time (and he's still an advisor there).

Their leadership team will for sure want a Saros / Askarov tandem for the next couple years.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Happens in the NBA all the time.

Can you provide examples of teams trading a player and then sending compensation later. I don't think I have ever seen it in sports. I am not talking about contracts.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Can you provide examples of teams trading a player and then sending compensation later. I don't think I have ever seen it in sports. I am not talking about contracts.

I thought the poster meant at the draft.

NBA teams usually draft a player for another team on a handshake and the deal happens after that.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Plus look at Barry Trotz coached teams.

Vokoun / Dunham
Vokoun / Mason
Rinne / Ellis
Rinne / Hutton
Holtby / Grubauer
Lehner / Greiss
Varlamov / Sorokin

If there is a guy that has a long history of slowly working in young goalies, and believing in having tandem goaltenders it's Barry Trotz. Then add on top of that Nashville as an organization also really has a history of tandem goalies and letting the young goalie learn from the incumbent, and did it under Poile all the time (and he's still an advisor there).

Their leadership team will for sure want a Saros / Askarov tandem for the next couple years.

Agree with your post. Would say a lot more than a couple years though.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Plus look at Barry Trotz coached teams.

Vokoun / Dunham
Vokoun / Mason
Rinne / Ellis
Rinne / Hutton
Holtby / Grubauer
Lehner / Greiss
Varlamov / Sorokin

If there is a guy that has a long history of slowly working in young goalies, and believing in having tandem goaltenders it's Barry Trotz. Then add on top of that Nashville as an organization also really has a history of tandem goalies and letting the young goalie learn from the incumbent, and did it under Poile all the time (and he's still an advisor there).

Their leadership team will for sure want a Saros / Askarov tandem for the next couple years.

And Trotz has always had the advice of the arguably best goalie coach in the world.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Nashville is under new management. They have Forsberg, Josi, McDonough and ROR under long term deals. Plus Schenn, Scissons, etc on shorter term ones.

Frankly, I don't know where they think they are in the team buidling timeline. But Askarov is pretty much where Gillies was at the same time of development and look how that turned out.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I thought the poster meant at the draft.

NBA teams usually draft a player for another team on a handshake and the deal happens after that.

This is because NBA teams can’t trade 1st round picks in back to back seasons . So if they are trading a 1st at the draft and they don’t have the next seasons they have to first draft the player and then immediately trade him