Design a Calgarypuck Logo!

[lazypucker]

Split98,

I like your designs. But I want to ask what does the "leaf" thingy on the right side represent?

I personally like the Flaming Tower design (third one on the list) the most. The player silouette looks too old school and too generic clipart-like

Also one suggestion - I don't really like the slogan "Unofficial Calgary Flames Community." It sounds like we are running some illegal operations here. Maybe changing it to something like "Calgary Flames Fan Community" or "Fan Forum of the Calgary Flames".

Also, are we allowed to sneak in a small Flaming C logo somewhere (like replacing one of the small "buttons" in the middle) or there will be trademark issues?

Just some of my personal thoughts...

[photon]

Yeah using the Flames logo wouldn't be allowed, and "Unofficial" makes sure that it's clear that we're not affiliated with the Flames.

[Split98]

Originally Posted by photon

This could possibly get into the same difficulty as the image of the Calgary Tower, the source photo that you used to create the silhouette is owned by someone so we'd probably need permission to use it, and I don't know about the implications of using a specific player's image as well, so might be better for the player to be more abstract and not identifiable.

Not just your stuff, anyone that's making logos should keep in mind that any source material that isn't created from scratch could involve getting permission or purchasing an image (unless they're already licensed under creative commons or something). Would hate to have to reject a good option because of copyright.

With modification, most images are legal for re-use.

For example, with the Calgary Tower any of these could be source images:
Calgary Tower Labeled for Reuse with Modification

The image of Monahan has been used by the NHL, Calgary Herald, CBC, Hockey in Society and many other locations as an image to their article. So I'm not sure if that specific image falls under CC or not. But, you're right that a vector cut-out of an image could still fall under the copyright violation from what I understand.

Edit: As credited by the Calgary Herald it's Derek Leung of Getty Images we would want to get in touch with. It's entirely possible that we email him and he says "Great!"

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by Split98

Um... thanks?



































Kidding. I totally know what you're saying. Thanks!

You're not smart, and everyone else are just try-hards.

:P

[Ulrith]

Originally Posted by Split98

I love these- particularly the Monahan celebration and the simple "CP". Some awesome designs all around but these are my favorite so far.

[Split98]

Originally Posted by Chill Cosby

You're not smart, and everyone else are just try-hards.

:P

Awwwwwww shucks


Waaaaaait a minute...

[Galakanokis]

I love the colour scheme of Split's logos but I am not sold on the Monohan image. I honestly just don't care for the image itself, not sure why. I do like the simple CP one on the bottom though. I could see that working in multiple scenarios.

A big thank you to everyone who has contributed from a fellow with zero artistic ability.

[FireItUp]

Here's a couple updated ones...

[MolsonInBothHands]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

Lots of really great ideas.

However, I think a logo should be simple, symmetrical and easily identifiable. There should be symbolism but not to the point that it's only symbolism.

Based on those criteria I think the above quoted are my favourite. I don't know if I like the hockey player the best (and the idea to change the silhouette to famous Flames poses) or the flame with the Calgary Tower in the middle.

Regardless, AMAZING job by everyone.

These look great, but my minor complaint: the saddle looks like a Jesus fish to me.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Split98

With modification, most images are legal for re-use.

I think they are in the US (I remember reading about a court case where someone was selling remixed photos), but I don't know about Canada.

I also don't know if there's a difference in just using some art to create new art and using art to create a logo.. a logo is different than art in that it's intended as an identifying image. So maybe copyright isn't the concern but trademark is?

Originally Posted by Split98

The image of Monahan has been used by the NHL, Calgary Herald, CBC, Hockey in Society and many other locations as an image to their article.

Right but reporting is definitely fair use; they're using images of players while reporting about the game, not incorporating the player's images into their logo or otherwise using the player's images to promote themselves. Just like we're Calgarypuck, but not CalgaryFlamesForum. It's editorial use vs. commercial use.

Plus any photos that the Herald or CBC uses are either taken by their own photographers or purchased from the photographers so own or license the copyright from whoever took the photo.

That's actually the exact nature of a past lawsuit against CP was; use of images without permission.

Originally Posted by Split98

So I'm not sure if that specific image falls under CC or not.

It should be easy to find out, just look at the source image and where it came from. It's taken by Derek Leung and is from Getty Images.

http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/new...hoto/184447339

Definitely not creative commons, and when I tried to get a price it told me that the image was intended for editorial use and commercial use (use in web advertising was the nearest fit I could see) said I had to contact them.

I don't know the laws for sure so I'm not saying we can or can't use something for sure, just saying that it's a consideration and that to use something questionable we'd need pretty solid support that it's fine before using it (i.e. getting permission, or direction from a lawyer).

[bzoo02]

Originally Posted by FireItUp

Here's a couple updated ones...

Like it. But maybe a tad phallic . Could just be Freudian me though.

[Split98]

Originally Posted by photon

I think they are in the US (I remember reading about a court case where someone was selling remixed photos), but I don't know about Canada.

I also don't know if there's a difference in just using some art to create new art and using art to create a logo.. a logo is different than art in that it's intended as an identifying image. So maybe copyright isn't the concern but trademark is?



Right but reporting is definitely fair use; they're using images of players while reporting about the game, not incorporating the player's images into their logo or otherwise using the player's images to promote themselves. Just like we're Calgarypuck, but not CalgaryFlamesForum. It's editorial use vs. commercial use.

Plus any photos that the Herald or CBC uses are either taken by their own photographers or purchased from the photographers so own or license the copyright from whoever took the photo.

That's actually the exact nature of a past lawsuit against CP was; use of images without permission.



It should be easy to find out, just look at the source image and where it came from. It's taken by Derek Leung and is from Getty Images.

http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/new...hoto/184447339

Definitely not creative commons, and when I tried to get a price it told me that the image was intended for editorial use and commercial use (use in web advertising was the nearest fit I could see) said I had to contact them.

I don't know the laws for sure so I'm not saying we can or can't use something for sure, just saying that it's a consideration and that to use something questionable we'd need pretty solid support that it's fine before using it (i.e. getting permission, or direction from a lawyer).

It's definitely tricky, especially if we are hoping to use iconic imagery. If it's what CP decides to go with, I'm sure someone on here will be able to shed some light on it. I hope so, as I'm always curious about these things. Everything I've worked with so far we've gathered our own images or I worked with a company with large enough pockets they did whatever they do and it just shows up in my Dropbox... I've never really gotten an answer, it's just... done.

[FireItUp]

Personally I think it looks more like a chat bubble.

Here's one with no city or tower.

[SuperMatt18]

One thing with that design is if the C was a little shorter and thined out a little bit the inside would look like a hockey stick.

[Locke]

No CP inside jokes? No Hookers and Blow themed logo?

[FireItUp]

Okay here's one more...

[photon]

I like that one too.. way too many good ones!

[StrykerSteve]

So many great designs. Honestly, if there's no silhouette of Sureloss, it just won't cut the mustard.

[surferguy]

Hey guys,

I am willing to donate one of my small clocks to the winner of the contest. Photon/Bingo - you can PM me if this is something you would like to consider.

Keep the ideas coming guys - looking fwd to seeing the results of this!

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by surferguy

I am willing to donate one of my small clocks

Talk about reading this wrong the first time!