2024/2025 Trade Rumours and Speculation thread

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Braden

I would be curious if Calgary takes a run a Nikita Gusev, old teammate with Kuzmenko, 89 points in68 games.. does someone give him another go at the NHL?

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Muta

When the Flames first made the Taffoli trade, Gusev was the guy who came to my mind as being Sherangovich. Hence why my first reaction was...did we just trade for another Zainullin?

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

This is a weird comment as the Oilers have had a ton more success then the Flames the last 5 seasons.

Top end/ elite talent wins.

Mangi is fine as your 8-9th best player on a contending team . But he isn’t improving , nor getting younger , and is already making 6 million .

There’s zero reason to sign him after this contract so trade him for as much value as you can

I'd be happy to trade Mangiapane for the reasons you stated.

But the comment about the Oilers having a "ton" more success the last 5 seasons is complete nonsense, even with the disappinting year last year.

Last 5 seasons (2018-2019 through 2022-2023)

Oilers
192-149-32
15-21 Playoff record
Highest finish - 2nd Pacifc

Flames
200-127-45
11-16 Playoff record
1st Pacific x2, 1st Western Conference

[cral12]

Originally Posted by Braden

I would be curious if Calgary takes a run a Nikita Gusev, old teammate with Kuzmenko, 89 points in68 games.. does someone give him another go at the NHL?

Ah man - good ole Gusev - just had a flashback to when i had a media pass for the World Juniors when it was here and I wrote an article on him that an Edmonton Journal journalist kind of plagiarized without reference back.

I dubbed him "Picasso-On-Ice" as cheesy as that was haha.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Braden

I would be curious if Calgary takes a run a Nikita Gusev, old teammate with Kuzmenko, 89 points in68 games.. does someone give him another go at the NHL?

Yeah, I think he broke some records in the KHL this year. Small player and he will be 32 before the season starts, but I like the outside of the box thinking.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by cral12

Ah man - good ole Gusev - just had a flashback to when i had a media pass for the World Juniors when it was here and I wrote an article on him that an Edmonton Journal journalist kind of plagiarized without reference back.

I dubbed him "Picasso-On-Ice" as cheesy as that was haha.

Watching that tournament it was pretty easy to feel that Gusev was the straw stirring the drink on the G-Kuznetsov-Kucherov line. He was totally electric. Kucherov was the LEAST likely imo to succeed and yet!

Looking back I find it surprising Nail Yakupov had 9 points in that tournament but I barely remember him playing at all.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

When the Flames first made the Taffoli trade, Gusev was the guy who came to my mind as being Sherangovich. Hence why my first reaction was...did we just trade for another Zainullin?

[dammage79]

There been a lot of folk bringing up potential wingers for the Flames to sign and not nearly enough centers.

Flames nation headlines a debrusk signing scenario in the summer, Gusev here. Plus others I'm forgetting.

I feell like it should be common sense that the Flames needs to add are elsewhere. And far away from wing.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dammage79

There been a lot of folk bringing up potential wingers for the Flames to sign and not nearly enough centers.

Flames nation headlines a debrusk signing scenario in the summer, Gusev here. Plus others I'm forgetting.

I feell like it should be common sense that the Flames needs to add are elsewhere. And far away from wing.

It's clear to me what Conroy is looking for.

[Monahammer]

No to debrusk but I think the idea of sending a wad of cash to try out Gusev is genious.

He's older, and KHL imports typically get short contracts to start. We have room to overspend on him for a single year (maybe 2) and have a former friend and team mate of his on the roster. We've recently improved our russian assets.

The biggest benefit here is the potential positive impact on Kuzmenko and his trade value next season. Imagine if these guys could pop with Sharango in the middle? We'd be sitting on another gold mine in trade assets to help this rebuild fly.

[Ba'alzamon]

Originally Posted by dammage79

There been a lot of folk bringing up potential wingers for the Flames to sign and not nearly enough centers.

Flames nation headlines a debrusk signing scenario in the summer, Gusev here. Plus others I'm forgetting.

I feell like it should be common sense that the Flames needs to add are elsewhere. And far away from wing.

The Flames organization has chronically overvalued wingers, for decades, so it isn't hard to understand that people think they might continue to do so.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Major Major

Put Buffalo on the Andersson destination list.

NJ will and should pony up the 1st. Give them some retention and let's go!

Maybe one of the picks we draft could even turn into an Andersson in 6-7 years!

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

The Flames organization has chronically overvalued wingers, for decades, so it isn't hard to understand that people think they might continue to do so.

Must be the logo, because almost nothing else besides the Dome is still here from decades ago.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Maybe one of the picks we draft could even turn into an Andersson in 6-7 years!

If you could somehow get Buffalo's 2024 pick for Andersson and it was a top 12 pick then the likelihood is one of the dmen would be better than Andersson and hopefully before 6 or 7 years.

Give me one of Dickenson, Silayev, Buium, Parekh on an ELC instead of Andersson at 30 years old making $8M in 3 years for sure.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Maybe one of the picks we draft could even turn into an Andersson in 6-7 years!

I mean, hopefully. There are players better than Andersson that get picked in that range and there are players vastly inferior to Andersson that get picked in that range.

The point isn't necessarily to upgrade Andersson, it is to bring up a new core of players of similar ages so that, in 6 or 7 years, you have a 25 year old instead of a 35 year old making too much money for too many more years.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Groot

I'd be happy to trade Mangiapane for the reasons you stated.

But the comment about the Oilers having a "ton" more success the last 5 seasons is complete nonsense, even with the disappinting year last year.

Last 5 seasons (2018-2019 through 2022-2023)

Oilers
192-149-32
15-21 Playoff record
Highest finish - 2nd Pacifc

Flames
200-127-45
11-16 Playoff record
1st Pacific x2, 1st Western Conference

Well I am including this season which we will miss and they at least make playoffs not the 2019 season (2019 makes us look much better as they missed playoffs and we finished first only to lose first round)

Maybe "Tons" was a small hyperbole but certainly not nonsense (Even if you try to sneak in 2019 in the stats)- 3 series wins (+ if they do anything this season) vs 1. Beat us in the playoffs. 4/5 playoffs vs 2/5 for Flames.

They have been much better over the last 5 seasons then us.

Flames

2024 34-35-5 Season Ongoing
2023 38-27-17 Missed Playoffs
2022 50-21-11 Lost Conference Semi-Finals (Won 1 Round)
2021 26-27-3 Missed Playoffs
2020 36-27-7 Lost First Round (Won 1 Round)

Oilers
2024 45-23-5 Season Ongoing
2023 50-23-9 Lost Conference Semi-Finals (Won 1 Round)
2022 49-27-6 Lost Conference Finals (Won 2 Rounds)
2021 35-19-2 Lost First Round (Won 0 Rounds)
2020 37-25-9 Lost Qualifying Round (Won 0 Rounds)

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Well I am including this season which we will miss and they at least make playoffs not the 2019 season (2019 makes us look much better as they missed playoffs and we finished first only to lose first round)

Maybe "Tons" was a small hyperbole but certainly not nonsense (Even if you try to sneak in 2019 in the stats)- 3 series wins (+ if they do anything this season) vs 1. Beat us in the playoffs. 4/5 playoffs vs 2/5 for Flames.

They have been much better over the last 5 seasons then us.

Flames

2024 34-35-5 Season Ongoing
2023 38-27-17 Missed Playoffs
2022 50-21-11 Lost Conference Semi-Finals (Won 1 Round)
2021 26-27-3 Missed Playoffs
2020 36-27-7 Lost First Round (Won 1 Round)

Oilers
2024 45-23-5 Season Ongoing
2023 50-23-9 Lost Conference Semi-Finals (Won 1 Round)
2022 49-27-6 Lost Conference Finals (Won 2 Rounds)
2021 35-19-2 Lost First Round (Won 0 Rounds)
2020 37-25-9 Lost Qualifying Round (Won 0 Rounds)

Still isn't even close to a ton more success, or even more at all. Even with this season the Oil still have a worse record over 5 seasons, minus a singular playoff round win. So yes, I think a ton more success is total nonsense.

[868904]

Originally Posted by dammage79

There been a lot of folk bringing up potential wingers for the Flames to sign and not nearly enough centers.

Flames nation headlines a debrusk signing scenario in the summer, Gusev here. Plus others I'm forgetting.

I feell like it should be common sense that the Flames needs to add are elsewhere. And far away from wing.

Flames have too much winger depth. All the top forward prospects are wingers too. They need to trade at least one of Kuzmenko or Mangiapane in the Summer in order to make room for Pelletier and Coronato.

Signing another winger makes no sense at all.

Chandler Stephenson ( a centre) makes a lot of sense for the Flames.

Course, any UFA signing plan can change with a lottery win.

[420since1974]

Conroy has 5 forwards that will be UFAs at the end of next season (Hunt (28), Kuzmenko (28), Mangiapane (27), Rooney (30), and Sharangovich (25)).
If Craig stays on his stated course of not letting anyone walk for free, I expect that he will trade all of them, though any decent return on Hunt and Rooney would be unlikely.
He might re-sign Sharangovich as he has shown he can play at C, but he will be 29 by the time the new arena opens.
The most that I would offer him would be 4 years at $5M and even that may be a little high.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by 868904

Flames have too much winger depth. All the top forward prospects are wingers too. They need to trade at least one of Kuzmenko or Mangiapane in the Summer in order to make room for Pelletier and Coronato.

Signing another winger makes no sense at all.

Chandler Stephenson ( a centre) makes a lot of sense for the Flames.

Course, any UFA signing plan can change with a lottery win.

Please no to Stephenson. That would be a textbook Treliving move… overpaying for a veteran 29/30 year old who has just played well on a cup contender after multiple playoff runs and is taking his retirement contract that he likely never lives up to.