11-04-2010, 01:12 AM
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#101
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Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by First Lady
I think you missed the main part of the sentence where I referred to cash.
Paying cash in and of itself isn't necessary a big deal.
The fact there is ZERO paper trail in this case is a HUGE red flag.
btw: This is not linked to my political ambitions. It is part of my work ethic and has been longer than my political ambitions. It just happens to go nicely on that front as well.
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Sorry, but that's ridiculous. Just because the guy doesn't give a receipt means he's cheating on his taxes? He could be handing out receipts and still not paying his taxes. Receipts are given for the tenant's benefit and have nothing to do with income statements.
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11-04-2010, 01:13 AM
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#102
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Quote:
Originally Posted by First Lady
Paying cash in and of itself isn't necessary a big deal.
The fact there is ZERO paper trail in this case is a HUGE red flag.
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Where is the OP's proof?
Do you think it's okay for him to run his landlord through the meat grinder just because he suspects he might not be paying taxes?
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11-04-2010, 01:13 AM
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#103
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Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Sorry, but that's ridiculous. Just because the guy doesn't give a receipt means he's cheating on his taxes? He could be handing out receipts and still not paying his taxes. Receipts are given for the tenant's benefit and have nothing to do with income statements.
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Theres also no lease or even month-to-month agreement.
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11-04-2010, 01:14 AM
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#104
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Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Dion
Where is the OP's proof?
Do you think it's okay for him to run his landlord through the meat grinder just because he suspects he might not be paying taxes?
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What meat grinder? If he's on the up and up; it's no big deal.
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11-04-2010, 01:17 AM
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#105
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Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by First Lady
Theres also no lease or even month-to-month agreement.
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So? Neither of those things guarantee that someone is paying taxes. They're simply beneficial for guaranteeing landlords and tenants certain rights. If I were the OP I'd be more concerned that my landlord could accuse me of not paying my rent or toss me at anytime than whether or not he's paying his taxes. I don't know why anyone in their right mind wouldn't ask for receipts or some sort of rental agreement.
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11-04-2010, 01:18 AM
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#106
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by First Lady
What meat grinder? If he's on the up and up; it's no big deal.
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Yeah, being audited is a real treat.
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11-04-2010, 01:19 AM
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#107
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Originally Posted by First Lady
What meat grinder? If he's on the up and up; it's no big deal.
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You mean the tax audit process is no big deal?
If he's on the up and up I'd hate to be the OP living in the guys house. I would suspect his personal belongings would be tossed out on the front lawn along with his arse. In fact i'd be more than happy to help the landlord do it.
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11-04-2010, 01:20 AM
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#108
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Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by rubecube
So? Neither of those things guarantee that someone is paying taxes. They're simply beneficial for guaranteeing landlords and tenants certain rights. If I were the OP I'd be more concerned that my landlord could accuse me of not paying my rent or toss me at anytime than whether or not he's paying his taxes. I don't know why anyone in their right mind wouldn't ask for receipts or some sort of rental agreement.
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No they don't guarantee it, but they are an indication of a more legitimate business.
You're right. Neither of them have any proof if the rent was or wasn't paid.
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11-04-2010, 01:22 AM
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#109
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Dion
You mean the tax audit process is no big deal?
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If they check his returns and he has been filing rental revenue/expenses. They wouldn't audit.
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11-04-2010, 01:23 AM
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#110
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by First Lady
No they don't guarantee it, but they are an indication of a more legitimate business.
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How so? It's not like it takes a concerted amount of effort to print off a rental agreement or buy a receipt book. For all you or I know the OP's landlord takes the cash and goes home to enter the amount into a spreadsheet.
EDIT: In fact, if I wasn't paying my taxes I would probably take the extra effort to appear legitimate so as not to arouse suspicion.
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11-04-2010, 01:25 AM
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#111
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Originally Posted by First Lady
If they check his returns and he has been filing rental revenue/expenses. They wouldn't audit.
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So you approve of snitches that don't have any proof?
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11-04-2010, 01:27 AM
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#112
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Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by rubecube
How so? It's not like it takes a concerted amount of effort to print off a rental agreement or buy a receipt book. For all you or I know the OP's landlord takes the cash and goes home to enter the amount into a spreadsheet.
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Each party having copies of receipts and/or agreements is, as I said an "indication". It's not a guarantee that things are changed after the fact.
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11-04-2010, 01:30 AM
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#113
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by First Lady
Each party having copies of receipts and/or agreements is, as I said an "indication". It's not a guarantee that things are changed after the fact.
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Which is my point. I wouldn't be throwing around harmful accusations unless I was positive of the facts. Remember innocent until proven guilty?
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11-04-2010, 01:31 AM
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#114
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First Line Centre
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Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Dion
So you approve of snitches that don't have any proof?
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I'm pretty sure snitches aren't require to gather the proof. At least I didn't have to have any the last time I called them.
That's why CRA does reviews and sometimes they will also go to the audit step.
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11-04-2010, 01:39 AM
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#115
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Originally Posted by First Lady
I'm pretty sure snitches aren't require to gather the proof. At least I didn't have to have any the last time I called them.
That's why CRA does reviews and sometimes they will also go to the audit step.
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The owner of the single screen movie theatre here in High River only accepts cash. Down the road the Hitchen Post does the same thing. Imagine if the customers of these businesses were like the OP. I suspect the calls to the CRA would be a long the lines of..... "Hello, the business only takes cash so they must be cheating on thier taxes - please check."
Imagine the anger the owner would feel that some customer reported him without any proof.
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11-04-2010, 01:45 AM
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#116
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Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Dion
The owner of the single screen movie theatre here in High River only accepts cash. Down the road the Hitchen Post does the same thing. Imagine if the customers of these businesses were like the OP. I suspect the calls to the CRA would be a long the lines of..... "Hello, the business only takes cash so they must be cheating on thier taxes - please check."
Imagine the anger the owner would feel that some customer reported him without any proof.
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This is starting to get very circular. As I've stated several times; cash isn't an issue all by itself. Each situation is different.
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11-04-2010, 01:48 AM
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#117
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Originally Posted by First Lady
This is starting to get very circular. As I've stated several times; cash isn't an issue all by itself. Each situation is different.
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The issue is the OP not having any proof and you supporting him.
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11-04-2010, 01:52 AM
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#118
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Any business that is "cash only" or gives "cash deals" & "no receipts" is suspect.
If you play that game there is no reason to get angry, you brought it onto yourself.
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11-04-2010, 01:55 AM
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#119
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Originally Posted by Pinner
Any business that is "cash only" or gives "cash deals" & "no receipts" is suspect.
If you play that game there is no reason to get angry, you brought it onto yourself.
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Suspicion is not proof for reporting someone.
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11-04-2010, 01:55 AM
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#120
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dion
The issue is the OP not having any proof and you supporting him.
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He doesn't need proof. When you report a suspected drunk driver you don't need a blood sample from the suspect.
It's up to the proper authorities to investigate.
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