12-13-2016, 03:22 PM
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#461
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Russell was actually one of the guys that did it right in that video. He chased the puck carrier up the boards providing pressure. It was Lucic's job to read that and cover him in front of the net but he just heads across the box and to the point without doing much, completing letting Russell down on the coverage.
So hang that on Lucic and the mystery defense partner who was in the right spot but must have a serious neck injury since he never looked around to find where the other two Jets were on the ice.
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Don't defencemen usually let a forward take over coverage rather than leave their own area? They switch off covering the carrier just like when they go behind the net. I think they do the same when the carrier is circling the offensive zone. More or less a zone defence as opposed to man to man.
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12-13-2016, 03:35 PM
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#462
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maple Bay, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
Would you care to define the " right package", in your mind?
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Likely something along these lines 
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12-13-2016, 03:40 PM
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#463
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Don't defencemen usually let a forward take over coverage rather than leave their own area? They switch off covering the carrier just like when they go behind the net. I think they do the same when the carrier is circling the offensive zone. More or less a zone defence as opposed to man to man.
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Depends how they're coached. Switching coverages creates more opportunities for a miscue. I see the Flames do the same thing, Brodie in particular I notice often sticking with his man as he cycles back to the blueline, and one of the forwards covers for him until he gets a chance to rotate back. In this play, there's a clear moment where Lucic can see all four other Oilers ahead of him, and a Jet right beside him, and he chooses to skate away after the puck even as the other D is yelling at him and pointing at his guy.
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12-13-2016, 03:53 PM
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#464
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Stampede Grounds
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
Would you care to define the " right package", in your mind?
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When Hamilton's play inevitably drops off again, we will pick up this discussion with some 'told you so' medicine from the other side of the ledger. And round and round we'll go.
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12-13-2016, 03:59 PM
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#465
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Corral
When Hamilton's play inevitably drops off again, we will pick up this discussion with some 'told you so' medicine from the other side of the ledger. And round and round we'll go.
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So then, a mid-round pick?
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12-13-2016, 04:03 PM
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#466
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Brisbane
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Love the thread title change and the Dougie sceptics having to eat crow. Keep up the good work CP!
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12-13-2016, 04:08 PM
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#467
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Corral
When Hamilton's play inevitably drops off again, we will pick up this discussion with some 'told you so' medicine from the other side of the ledger. And round and round we'll go.
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That'd be like WhereRUChris O'Sullivan telling us all that the next time Backlund's play drops off he's going to give us a round of "told you so medicine".
A some point all you're telling us is that you are, for some unfathomable reason, a biased struggler when it comes to that player.
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12-13-2016, 04:09 PM
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#468
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Franchise Player
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By that logic, we should sell Gaudreau and Monahan while we are at it, since they are doing well again.
Then wait until Bennett is lighting it up, and sell high on him too. Tkachuk is increasing his value, but I think we should keep him for at least another season until his value has peaked and we can sell high then.
Keep drafting and selling high when the players get better. Imagine all the draft assets we will have!
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12-13-2016, 04:11 PM
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#469
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Corral
When Hamilton's play inevitably drops off again, we will pick up this discussion with some 'told you so' medicine from the other side of the ledger. And round and round we'll go.
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Those posts will be epic! But sadly, on ignore.
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12-13-2016, 04:14 PM
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#470
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Franchise Player
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We should trade Chad Johnson.
Sell high! Sell high!
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12-13-2016, 04:19 PM
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#471
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Scoring Winger
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Dougie has been phenomenal i was super stoked when we landed him. When all those trade proposals for dougie to TO were going around i said only way is for matthews. thats how good i think dougie is and will be for years to come.
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12-13-2016, 04:19 PM
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#472
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Corral
When Hamilton's play inevitably drops off again, we will pick up this discussion with some 'told you so' medicine from the other side of the ledger. And round and round we'll go.
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Yeah, you tried doing that last time he had a bad game.
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12-13-2016, 04:24 PM
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#473
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Such a weird game some posters play.
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12-13-2016, 04:47 PM
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#474
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Corral
When Hamilton's play inevitably drops off again, we will pick up this discussion with some 'told you so' medicine from the other side of the ledger. And round and round we'll go.
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I should have known better than to finish my question with "in your mind".
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12-13-2016, 05:18 PM
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#475
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Such a weird game some posters play.
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I have a shoe full of pebbles.
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12-13-2016, 07:07 PM
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#476
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I could see you maybe having a point if Russell was playing as well as Hamilton is but he isn't. Besides the Oilers are the opposite of the Flames in that they started hot and caught teams getting out of the gates slow but they have regressed and are taking water fast as other teams pass them in the standings.
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No no, you missed the point. People excused Hamilton's early season... flop. The excuse used was that it was a new coach and new system. I countered it Russell who not only had a new coach and new system but also had a new team. It didn't affect him. Upside for Hamilton is high, so long as he becomes more consistent. That remains to be seen. Calgary has seen many hot streaks with Iggy and cold starts, only to miss the playoffs year after year.
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12-13-2016, 07:26 PM
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#477
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All I can get
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
I should have known better than to finish my question with "in your mind".
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Hamilton is turning into a fantastic player. Best is yet to come. What a steal by Treliving.
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12-13-2016, 07:55 PM
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#478
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Franchise Player
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Stubborn and ardent clinging to one's opinion, despite the stats and facts, is the surest proof of stupidity
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12-13-2016, 08:56 PM
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#479
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Originally Posted by FlamesFan68
No no, you missed the point. People excused Hamilton's early season... flop. The excuse used was that it was a new coach and new system. I countered it Russell who not only had a new coach and new system but also had a new team. It didn't affect him. Upside for Hamilton is high, so long as he becomes more consistent. That remains to be seen. Calgary has seen many hot streaks with Iggy and cold starts, only to miss the playoffs year after year.
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I wonder if the 10 seasons, 6 coaches, 5 different teams, and 6 extra years old had like... ANYTHING to do with Russell being more adaptable to a coaching change than Hamilton.
It's almost like they're in two totally different stages of their career and development or something. I don't know, maybe that's crazy.
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12-13-2016, 09:26 PM
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#480
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Nachodamus.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Such a weird game some posters play.
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It's been posted before, and will again, but it can never be overstated:
Oh and You're WOPR from now on 
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