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Old 04-03-2017, 05:34 PM   #181
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If you're gonna do a world cup, do it like they do in soccer.
Exactly! All we need is 92 more countries who know how to play hockey!
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Old 04-03-2017, 05:34 PM   #182
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Why does there have to be something in it for the NHL?

It's the ####ing Olympics.
Yes, and the '####ing Olympics' is a multi-billion dollar business enterprise itself. So what makes the IOC a charity case?
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Fine, sure. 8. With perhaps some pre-tourney qualifying games? Would up the inclusiveness of it.

If you're gonna do a world cup, do it like they do in soccer.
I would just use the World Championship results from earlier that year to decide the 8 competing. Anyone who makes the quarter finals is invited to that Septembers World Cup.

As an example using last Mays results, this last World Cup would have consisted of,

Canada
USA
Russia
Czech
Sweden
Finland
Germany
Denmark

Something like that would keep it simple.

Anyhow...derailing this a bit.

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Old 04-03-2017, 05:39 PM   #184
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Someone mentioned it already but I like the idea of some unknowns going and catching the spotlight for a brief moment. That's what the Olympics are about to me, recognition of people who aren't professionals and catch a brief moment of glory to reflect how hard they've worked on their craft. Like mogul skiers or bobsledders.

Sidney Crosby has enough fame and money, let some amateurs have their shot at some olympic glory
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Old 04-03-2017, 05:46 PM   #185
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I think there's only more organization in the world more corrupt than the IOC and that's FIFA. Neither of those organization has a cash flow problem. If the IOC wants NHL players at the Winter Olympics, it's time to cough up some cash.
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Old 04-03-2017, 05:56 PM   #186
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Meh. I like(d) olympic hockey more than the NHL regular season.

The World Cup isn't the same, and I doubt the NHL will get it right. Plus they're probably never going to have it in Europe, which is going to suck.
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Old 04-03-2017, 05:57 PM   #187
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Why does there have to be something in it for the NHL?

It's the ####ing Olympics.
The NHL is stopping it's season in the dead middle of it, and they shouldn't get anything out it (not even media), and assume the risk (injured players which likely will happen) all to appease the IOC?

That's just stupid. The NHL has participated enough that any gains from fan exposure isn't enough at this point. They need more than that.

The World Cup can easily fill in the void of the Olympics, and the NHL (and NHLPA) gets perks out of it. It's the same thing in the end, best versus best. It'll take a while to get to the prestige the Olympics built, but it's definitely achievable.
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The idea of having to get up in the middle of the night to watch some Olympic hockey doesn't appeal to me.
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Old 04-03-2017, 06:33 PM   #189
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This sucks. I totally could have gone to see some of those games. Get your **** together IOC and NHL. Get it all together. Get it in a bag... or whatever, just get it together. Get all your **** and put it in a pile and take it down to the **** store. Get it - get it all together.
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The idea of having to get up in the middle of the night to watch some Olympic hockey doesn't appeal to me.
Just do what I did in 2014 and don't go to bed on game days.
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Old 04-03-2017, 06:40 PM   #191
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This sucks. I totally could have gone to see some of those games. Get your **** together IOC and NHL. Get it all together. Get it in a bag... or whatever, just get it together. Get all your **** and put it in a pile and take it down to the **** store. Get it - get it all together.
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Old 04-03-2017, 06:45 PM   #192
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Damn shame. The Olympic hockey is just awesome to watch.
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Old 04-03-2017, 06:49 PM   #193
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Sad day. As far as hockey competitions go the Olympics has always been the pinnacle for me. I'll hold out hope for a last ditch effort to right this wrong.
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Old 04-03-2017, 06:51 PM   #194
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Will be missed for sure.

I have a hockey fanatic friend that only got into watching the NHL because she watched the Olympic hockey.

I think Bettman and the owners underestimate what the Olympics can do for the NHL.
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Old 04-03-2017, 06:55 PM   #195
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Seeing as the Flames are leaving, just go back to having a year round national team based in Calgary.
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Old 04-03-2017, 07:12 PM   #196
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Will be missed for sure.

I have a hockey fanatic friend that only got into watching the NHL because she watched the Olympic hockey.

I think Bettman and the owners underestimate what the Olympics can do for the NHL.
I agree with this. There is a lot of sports patriotism that arises during the Olympics, and hockey is arguably the headlining event.

I also agree with the post which noted (paraphrasing) that some of the great Canada Cups involved a lot more of Canada vs. national programs and the increased number of international NHL stars keeps the dynamic of that era firmly in the past.

The NHL simply can not manufacture as significant a patriotic context with their own standalone tournament.

And the novelty teams threw that even further out the window.
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Old 04-03-2017, 07:18 PM   #197
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Sucks for us fans but can't say it's a bad move on the NHL's part.
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Old 04-03-2017, 07:33 PM   #198
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Not a fan of Bettman or the owners, but I can understand their position in regards to no help from the IOC.

For myself, at the end of the day I'm more of a Flames fan than a Team Canada fan even with say, Dougie on the squad.

And I'm DEFINITELY more of a Flames fan than a Team USA fan even with Johnny and Tkachuk on it.

Maybe my NHL allegiances/dislikes are stronger than my Patriotism. I remember in 2010 at the height of my Canuck hate, being disinterested in Team Canada because of Luongo.(I still claim to this day we won in spite of him, not because of him) And as I type this, the thought of having to cheer for McJesus in a Maple Leaf at the Olympics doesn't appeal to me one iota.

Or maybe I'm just petty.
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Old 04-03-2017, 07:44 PM   #199
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Yes, and the '####ing Olympics' is a multi-billion dollar business enterprise itself. So what makes the IOC a charity case?
Ioc is to busy getting backhanded deals and laundering money to make an honest deal
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Old 04-03-2017, 07:46 PM   #200
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Sucks for us fans but can't say it's a bad move on the NHL's part.
Why does it suck 4 the fans. Really the olympics is a non-professional event.

I for 1 think a 2nd world juionors would be awesome...if that was the case.

And could u imagine if canada won without nhlers!!!
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