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Old 05-13-2024, 11:06 AM   #2321
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It was. Hopefully they look back at game 2.

It's funny because when the Oilers were playing the Flames, there was a missed call on the ice, so McDavid put up his hand like he was a referee and when play stopped, went and talked to them. Then the refs did a video review and assessed the Flames with a penalty.

In this case, Hughes was obviously bleeding so something must have happened, but not no video review. I guess teams these days need a designated whiner who can manipulate the refs.
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Old 05-13-2024, 11:07 AM   #2322
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Pretty sure nobody who knows Anna Kane was wondering if that is real. She is a certified wacko.
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Old 05-13-2024, 11:08 AM   #2323
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This is all going the way I was hoping.

Cheap shots, chippy play, crosschecks to the head, high stick work, crosschecks to the back, trying to kick guys in the face, slewfootings, players crying to refs, fans crying to the internet.

Need 7 games of this so the winner is gimped and broken for the glorious round 3 hammerfisting.

Hope there are no suspensions so next game the cheap #### can ramp up and continue.

Lets go!

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Well I hope Soucy learned his lesson here. That lesson is to two handed slash back.

As for the frustrated and petulant little boy, no, the puck didn’t go in. That’s not the way to address your emotions by two handing the nearest player. As the internet memes say, he F around and found out.

Canucks should be all over the Hyman cross check to the head.

As for terry jones, I thought that he had retired and that the oilers had blocked his pass to the game day buffet? That tweet likely buys him another week of unhindered feeding.
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Was going to mention this as well. All the attention on Soucy, who only got McDummy in the face because he was falling (hands were never above his shoulders, was clearly pushing out towards upper chest/shoulders), while Hyman came back into the scrum, stick up deliberately at Zadorov's head(stick and hands above his own head leaning into it).

Be pretty blatant bias if the only thing to come of this is a Zadorov fine and Soucy suspension.
McDavid is worthy of a fine for the two handed swing at Soucy, and Hyman should get just as long as Soucy if they're suspending for crosschecks above the shoulders.
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Old 05-13-2024, 11:19 AM   #2326
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Seems like the NHL has decided that they need to go full WWE.
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It is insane the extent to which the Canadian national media and league are siding with the Oilers in this series. McDavid starts a fight he has no intent of finishing in the dirtiest way possible hitting his opponent with a two hander, opponent tries to cross check him the the chest back and he flops with the push and gets hit in the face - clearly unintentionally and it's a potential suspension somehow?

And as has been pointed out with the number of random spearing and stick infractions that have occurred to cherry pick this one out is such a joke
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Old 05-13-2024, 11:30 AM   #2328
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With the way Lindholm and Big Z is having a huge impact for the Canucks in the playoffs, I'm wondering if Flames got enough from the Canucks. Certainly, not for the Zadorov trade. Lindholm is a McDavid killer in faceoffs! And did I say he was totally underrated? He'll earn his worth regardless of how far the Canucks go in this playoff run.
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Old 05-13-2024, 11:39 AM   #2329
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With the way Lindholm and Big Z is having a huge impact for the Canucks in the playoffs, I'm wondering if Flames got enough from the Canucks. Certainly, not for the Zadorov trade. Lindholm is a McDavid killer in faceoffs! And did I say he was totally underrated? He'll earn his worth regardless of how far the Canucks go in this playoff run.
Lindholm wanted out so bad he practically decided to stop playing. And the Flames weren't going to re-sign big Z so they had to get something for him.

The return for Lindholm was still a very good haul.
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Have to give credit where it's due. Conner is the greatest diver to ever play the game. The way he crumpled from that Zadorov cross check is legendary.
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With the way Lindholm and Big Z is having a huge impact for the Canucks in the playoffs, I'm wondering if Flames got enough from the Canucks. Certainly, not for the Zadorov trade. Lindholm is a McDavid killer in faceoffs! And did I say he was totally underrated? He'll earn his worth regardless of how far the Canucks go in this playoff run.
Nah, I'd have given them away for free if it leads to the Oilers losing.
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Old 05-13-2024, 11:41 AM   #2332
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Soucy probably too good for the McDavid “Brandon Manning” treatment.

Remember the flyers player who hit McDavid? And then the oilers traded for him and buried him in the minors and then he had to go to Europe?

Soucy wouldn’t clear waivers so he’s protected a bit.

On duha, I had to check that I was still reading under his byline when I first read the article. IMO, he missed the fact that the entire incident was caused by McDavid. It’s not like him to not balance cause and effect, especially the speed and split seconds of this incident. McDavid was the aggressor to start things.
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With the way Lindholm and Big Z is having a huge impact for the Canucks in the playoffs, I'm wondering if Flames got enough from the Canucks. Certainly, not for the Zadorov trade. Lindholm is a McDavid killer in faceoffs! And did I say he was totally underrated? He'll earn his worth regardless of how far the Canucks go in this playoff run.
Doesn't matter what Lindholm does this year. Nothing makes it less of a win for the Flames.

However both teams can win a trade. If Lindholm is a core piece and they win the cup, I'd say the Nucks won too.

Lindy was gone regardless and we got a good haul for him.
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r/hockey is also carrying water for the oilers as they usually do, anything posted that looks badly on the oilers is deleted by the mods and quickly. For example they deleted Terry Jones’ ridiculous tweet within minutes.


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Old 05-13-2024, 11:42 AM   #2335
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With the way Lindholm and Big Z is having a huge impact for the Canucks in the playoffs, I'm wondering if Flames got enough from the Canucks. Certainly, not for the Zadorov trade. Lindholm is a McDavid killer in faceoffs! And did I say he was totally underrated? He'll earn his worth regardless of how far the Canucks go in this playoff run.
haha, Lindholm wanted 8x9
He wasn't exactly a McDavid killer a couple years back

Flames got an amazing return...when they get pounded next round and he leaves we can revisit this conversation as the Flames will still have all the assets
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With the way Lindholm and Big Z is having a huge impact for the Canucks in the playoffs, I'm wondering if Flames got enough from the Canucks. Certainly, not for the Zadorov trade. Lindholm is a McDavid killer in faceoffs! And did I say he was totally underrated? He'll earn his worth regardless of how far the Canucks go in this playoff run.
Just going to point out, again, that Kuzmenko--the third most valuable piece the flames received in return--still has more points since the trade than Lindholm does.

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Doesn't matter what Lindholm does this year. Nothing makes it less of a win for the Flames.

However both teams can win a trade. If Lindholm is a core piece and they win the cup, I'd say the Nucks won too.

Lindy was gone regardless and we got a good haul for him.
correct. There doesn't have to be a winner and a loser. It's possible for both teams to do well in a transaction.
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haha, Lindholm wanted 8x9
He wasn't exactly a McDavid killer a couple years back

Flames got an amazing return...when they get pounded next round and he leaves we can revisit this conversation as the Flames will still have all the assets
Far from a foregone they get through this round. I'd still lean Oilers in this series given how they've started to carry the play.
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I don't think the Canucks have to win a cup to feel like the Lindholm trade as a good one. He's playing an important role on a good run.
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Any word on when we might get the result of the hearing? Reallllllly hoping its a "dont do this again or it will be multiple games, here's a fine" but fully expecting 1-2 games because Mcdavid
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With the way Lindholm and Big Z is having a huge impact for the Canucks in the playoffs, I'm wondering if Flames got enough from the Canucks. Certainly, not for the Zadorov trade. Lindholm is a McDavid killer in faceoffs! And did I say he was totally underrated? He'll earn his worth regardless of how far the Canucks go in this playoff run.
Lindholm has scored some big goals and has certainly made an impact, but he's also getting thoroughly outplayed at five on five. For example, he's been out chanced 59-37, and outshot 60-39. He's riding some very fortunate luck at the moment. Nobody should have an issue with the return on that deal. It was a slamdunk win for Conroy regardless of the outcome for the Canucks.

Zadorov on the other hand is going down as arguably the best trade of the season considering the acquisition cost, and multifaceted ways he's impacted games to date in the playoffs. He's playing at at an incredibly high level right now. Unfortunately Z and his agent forced Conroy's hand and it certainly limited the return we got back. He's trending to get massively overpaid moving forward from some team as a UFA.
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