10-17-2023, 03:02 PM
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#1981
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Participant
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Well it’s at least 50/50, so yeah.
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I feel like it should be well established that both parties would do this… and yet…
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10-17-2023, 03:03 PM
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#1982
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Franchise Player
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I suspect there is lots going on behind the scenes. Israel is not going to begin a ground offensive so long as Biden is in the country.
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10-17-2023, 03:06 PM
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#1983
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Franchise Player
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nm.
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10-17-2023, 03:29 PM
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#1984
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Q_
Being reported by MSNBC.
Hamas willing to release all civilians if bombing of Gaza ends.
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Yeah that was reported several hours ago. I personally don't believe it. Hamas has the option to lay down their arms and surrender unconditionally.
Also, that blank statement doesn't address the prisoners that the Jihad and other organizations have( about 50 in total ). It also doesn't address the soldiers still captured, and it would give Hamas time to regroup, and re-locate the prisoners.
Moreover, as soon as Israel stops the airstrikes there will be added conditions. For example like another Hamas spokesperson saying they didn't murder civilians because the settlers surrounding Gaza aren't civilians.
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10-17-2023, 03:34 PM
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#1985
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North America
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10-17-2023, 03:36 PM
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#1986
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoho
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It appears active listening and diplomacy is rapidly falling apart
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10-17-2023, 03:39 PM
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#1987
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Franchise Player
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https://x.com/GeoConfirmed/status/17...935851272?s=20
So the Arab countries going to reject diplomacy on the basis of unsubstantiated claims that Israel struck the hospital? The videos are now being geolocated as seen above, account is an independent reliable source.
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10-17-2023, 03:51 PM
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#1988
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Franchise Player
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But again, how does part of a small rocket significantly damage a hospital?
And this video (which was apparently verified by the Washington Post) shows a high velocity impact, which doesn't sound or look like a falling rocket at all:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...NC2Z4IPFMCIL54
Maybe they're wrong, and it's not a video of the explosion. But if they're not, that looks and sounds much more like the weaponry Israel is using than a malfunctioning Hamas rocket.
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10-17-2023, 03:56 PM
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#1989
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Spartanville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beninho
The Jerusalem Post is saying the IDF is claiming it was a missile from Palestinian Islamic Jihad, not Hamas. No video evidence is given.
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Oh. There was video evidence presented. Initially.
Except they had to remove it when the timestamp showed it to be false.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1714382690420449586
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10-17-2023, 04:05 PM
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#1991
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by Beninho
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Who is “GeoConfirmed”? I’m actually asking as I don’t use Twitter.
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10-17-2023, 04:07 PM
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#1992
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Who is “GeoConfirmed”? I’m actually asking as I don’t use Twitter.
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They are an independent group that geolocates videos, they have done a lot of work geolocating videos in the Ukraine-Russia war. You can believe them or not, just providing what I believe is a reliable source.
Regardless of who you may believe has done this, it is clear that Israel has a legitimate defence to what they are being accused of. The countries jumping the gun condemning the supposed attack were being careless. i.e Justin Trudeau
The number of deaths were claimed to be 500 minutes after the attack. How can you verify the number in just minutes like that? It is not possible
Last edited by Beninho; 10-17-2023 at 04:17 PM.
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10-17-2023, 04:19 PM
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#1993
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Beninho
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Crazy if true. The way the Iron Dome works, is that it doesn't actually physically hit the missiles a lot of the time. The interceptors explode near the incoming missiles, which causes the incoming missiles to fall from the air.
You can definitely see a large explosion after the interception, and then a large and very immediate fire. The fire would likely have led to a lot of the deaths, it seems to rage right away. Is Hamas using incendiary devices in their rockets? That's crazy if true, as a large portion of Hamas' rockets fall on Gaza, even without being intercepted first.
Just horrible.
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10-17-2023, 04:21 PM
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#1994
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Franchise Player
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Israeli sources are now speculating that the severity of the explosion could've been caused by storage of rockets and explosives in the vicinity of the hospital.
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10-17-2023, 04:26 PM
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#1995
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gvitaly
Israeli sources are now speculating that the severity of the explosion could've been caused by storage of rockets and explosives in the vicinity of the hospital.
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Something doesn't add up. The fire is way too intense right away. Could it be that the rocket hit fuel supplies in the hospital?
Also, the IDF is now stating it was Islamic Jihad that was launching the rockets, not Hamas.
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10-17-2023, 04:30 PM
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#1996
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My face is a bum!
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This all reminds me of how 9 couldn't have 11ed because of the steel.
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10-17-2023, 04:38 PM
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#1997
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Franchise Player
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Where was the explosion? Video shows a rocket failed launch, but where's the boom? A hospital being destroyed should certainly have a noticeable detonation, especially at night?
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10-17-2023, 04:40 PM
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#1998
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
Where was the explosion? Video shows a rocket failed launch, but where's the boom? A hospital being destroyed should certainly have a noticeable detonation, especially at night?
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There's clearly quite a large explosion at 0:18. It's actually quite delayed from the rocket interception. That could be the intercepted rocket going off course and taking a while to hit the ground, something in the hospital exploding, or something besides the failed rocket causing the explosion.
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10-17-2023, 04:44 PM
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#1999
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Bumface
This all reminds me of how 9 couldn't have 11ed because of the steel.
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Except that it's a well known fact that at least 15% of the rockets launched out of the Gaza Strip fall short and land in Gaza. And we've got a video supposedly showing the rocket being intercepted and falling into the hospital.
It would be similar to 9/11 videos, if instead of a video of planes hitting the twin towers, you had a video a group of F-14 launching missiles at them.
What this does remind me of is every media report about Israel/Palestine where people immediately jump to the conclusion that paints Israel in the worst possible light.
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10-17-2023, 04:45 PM
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#2000
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Spartanville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gvitaly
Israeli sources are now speculating that the severity of the explosion could've been caused by storage of rockets and explosives in the vicinity of the hospital.
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Meanwhile the rest of the world speculates it was caused by an Israeli rocket.
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