08-28-2013, 03:55 PM
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#101
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
You can look at the distribution and interpret the results how you want---
team ---------- Pts ---------- goal diff ---------- soft player count
P - CHICAGO ---------- 77 ---------- 53 ---------- 2
Z - PITTSBURGH ---------- 72 ---------- 46 ---------- 1
Y - ANAHEIM ---------- 66 ---------- 22 ---------- 3
Y - MONTRÉAL ---------- 63 ---------- 23 ---------- 3
X - BOSTON ---------- 62 ---------- 22 ---------- 2
X - ST. LOUIS ---------- 60 ---------- 14 ---------- 1
X - LOS ANGELES ---------- 59 ---------- 15 ---------- 3
Y - VANCOUVER ---------- 59 ---------- 6 ---------- 4
X - TORONTO ---------- 57 ---------- 12 ---------- 2
Y - WASHINGTON ---------- 57 ---------- 19 ---------- 3
X - SAN JOSE ---------- 57 ---------- 8 ---------- 4
X - NY RANGERS ---------- 56 ---------- 18 ---------- 1
X - DETROIT ---------- 56 ---------- 9 ---------- 6
X - OTTAWA ---------- 56 ---------- 12 ---------- 4
X - MINNESOTA ---------- 55 ---------- -5 ---------- 4
X - NY ISLANDERS ---------- 55 ---------- 0 ---------- 3
COLUMBUS ---------- 55 ---------- 1 ---------- 2
WINNIPEG ---------- 51 ---------- -16 ---------- 3
PHOENIX ---------- 51 ---------- -6 ---------- 2
PHILADELPHIA ---------- 49 ---------- -8 ---------- 3
DALLAS ---------- 48 ---------- -12 ---------- 4
NEW JERSEY ---------- 48 ---------- -17 ---------- 4
BUFFALO ---------- 48 ---------- -18 ---------- 5
EDMONTON ---------- 45 ---------- -9 ---------- 7
CALGARY ---------- 42 ---------- -32 ---------- 5
CAROLINA ---------- 42 ---------- -32 ---------- 4
NASHVILLE ---------- 41 ---------- -28 ---------- 5
TAMPA BAY ---------- 40 ---------- -2 ---------- 1
COLORADO ---------- 39 ---------- -36 ---------- 1
FLORIDA ---------- 36 ---------- -59 ---------- 4
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Quickly eyeballing those stats would imply that there could be a bit of correlation with RGI and success, but at best it's weak.
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08-28-2013, 04:00 PM
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#102
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Franchise Player
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The scatterplot looks pretty funny.
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08-28-2013, 04:10 PM
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#103
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by V
Well, the data is garbage, the premise is a mess, and, really, that subjective method of setting target variables is also very silly. So I'm not going to waste my time on that.
But I did do something easier that I believe takes this guys idea and at least normalizes it to a point where the numbers actually mean something, even if the data is garbage. My methodology is thus:
I assumed that Hits, Blocked shots and Takeaway/Giveaway differential actually defines grittiness. Silly presumption, I know, but it's somewhere to start.
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So what you're really saying is RGI is bull#### and Ricardo is full of ####? I didn't need to do any regression analysis to figure that out.
Nice job on the stats by the way!
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08-24-2022, 12:07 PM
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#104
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Franchise Player
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I haven't read through the thread in detail, but players (and teams) who block a lot of shots tend to have very poor possession stats. There is a reason they need to block so many shots.
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08-24-2022, 12:08 PM
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#105
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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9 year bump? Interesting.
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08-24-2022, 12:12 PM
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#106
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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It's a shame nobody ever tried to calculate Gaudreau's RGI.
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08-24-2022, 12:25 PM
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#107
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
9 year bump? Interesting.
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That bump took real grit.
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08-24-2022, 12:30 PM
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#108
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
So what you're really saying is RGI is bull#### and Ricardo is full of ####? I didn't need to do any regression analysis to figure that out.
Nice job on the stats by the way!
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This post could have been written yesterday.
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08-24-2022, 12:35 PM
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#109
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dustygoon
This post could have been written any y̶e̶s̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶day.
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Fixed
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08-24-2022, 12:35 PM
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#110
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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this is going to be a fun bump lol
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08-24-2022, 12:36 PM
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#111
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: A small painted room
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What about Chris Butler? Butlersoft!
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08-24-2022, 12:55 PM
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#112
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: https://homestars.com/companies/2808346-keith-my-furnace-guy
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I like it. But I still like the GAF meter. Depending upon how many sparks fly out their ears and how much fire comes out of their mouths you can always tell when a guys meter is pegged.
Highest GAF players, coaches for me on the Flames are pretty obvious.
- Weegs looks like he could be pretty intimidating.
- Tanev is part Stephan Yelle , part Daymond Langkow , part Iginla....silently leading and warrioring ( new word).
- Lucic...nuff said...still the toughest in the league me thinks.
- Raz....he backs up his mouth enough.
- Markstrom....takes heat , shoulders blame , true leader
- Lindholm....just improving every time I watch...hell pop 50 this year.
- Kadri....that edge, attitude , I hope he doesn't actually kill Kane but there's gonna be fireworks . Can't wait to watch. If he channels that aggression into effort not giving cheap shots he gonna be amazing.
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08-24-2022, 01:00 PM
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#113
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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How do you even find a 9 year old thread to bring back from the dead anyhow?
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08-24-2022, 01:01 PM
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#114
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Calgary
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In before the lock
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08-24-2022, 02:12 PM
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#115
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Richmond, BC
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Totally forgot that Steve Begin played for the Flames in 12-13.
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08-24-2022, 02:18 PM
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#116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
It's a shame nobody ever tried to calculate Gaudreau's RGI.
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It's about a pack of skittles
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08-24-2022, 03:03 PM
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#117
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary Satellite Community
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Why was this ancient thread worth resurrecting? Honestly makes no sense.
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08-24-2022, 03:04 PM
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#118
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by greyshep
Why was this ancient thread worth resurrecting? Honestly makes no sense.
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It makes as much sense as it ever did, I suppose.
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08-24-2022, 03:19 PM
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#119
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Franchise Player
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What an insane premise.
Taking repeated crosschecks in the slot trying to make a play doesn't show up on any stat sheet, advanced or traditional. Are those players not gritty?
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08-24-2022, 03:28 PM
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#120
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Franchise Player
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Reading through the OP and thought a lot of the rationale made sense and that it was an interesting proposal. Then wondered why he was picking samples of random players like Baertschi and Glencross.....only realized the thread was 9 years old when I saw Sarich. One hell of a threadsurrection
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