Russia invades Ukraine

[Azure]

For those following this story, the Ukraine government asked for emergency Starlink access last week. SpaceX granted it shortly, but without the terminals it isn't much help. Despite the obvious back log of Starlink customers waiting for their terminals to show up, SpaceX managed to get some in country with 72 hours.

This gives the Ukraine government access to the internet & communications even in the event of a cyberattack.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1498392515262746630

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Regarding the 5M Rubles to surrender, someone asked how Ukraine could afford that...

As mentioned, 5M Rubles is (currently) just under $50K USD. If 1,000 soldiers way down their weapons, that would only cost Ukraine $5 million. That amount is substantially less than the costs they are incurring to infrastructure, their economy, and actual human lives.

If 10,000 Russians were to lay down their guns, that would still only cost Ukraine $50M and would go down as, not only money well spent, but one of the greatest war victories in human history.

As things stand right now, Ukraine has no issue with access to money. Between the EU, UK, US, NATO countries helping out & their adjoining neighbors, there is enough money to go around, which is what makes this a good idea.

The problem is access to direct aid, supplies, food, weapons, etc. Money can't buy that right now in many areas.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Nyah

Same with Twitter, and social media in general. Unless what you're seeing is verified, take it with a grain of salt.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1497630559702601730

Classic!

It should be relatively easy to determine, based on their unis and equipment, no?

Also, I would imagine they are Russian, simply due to the civilian standing there nonchalantly - can't imagine that being the case if these were Ukrainian soldiers being detained by Russian soldiers.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Classic!

It should be relatively easy to determine, based on their unis and equipment, no?

Also, I would imagine they are Russian, simply due to the civilian standing there nonchalantly - can't imagine that being the case if these were Ukrainian soldiers being detained by Russian soldiers.

"Clearly these are Ukrainian terrorists, infiltrating Russian lands to kill children"
-Nebenzya

[calumniate]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Classic!

It should be relatively easy to determine, based on their unis and equipment, no?

Also, I would imagine they are Russian, simply due to the civilian standing there nonchalantly - can't imagine that being the case if these were Ukrainian soldiers being detained by Russian soldiers.

Yes but 90% of people won't have a discerning eye for that. Heck, I could put up a graph saying vaccinations cause rabies on twitter and I'd probably get 1000 likes.

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1498398506611994624

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Regarding the 5M Rubles to surrender, someone asked how Ukraine could afford that...

As mentioned, 5M Rubles is (currently) just under $50K USD. If 1,000 soldiers way down their weapons, that would only cost Ukraine $5 million. That amount is substantially less than the costs they are incurring to infrastructure, their economy, and actual human lives.

If 10,000 Russians were to lay down their guns, that would still only cost Ukraine $50M and would go down as, not only money well spent, but one of the greatest war victories in human history.

LOL - I was off by a zero. If you're going to do the math, do it right!

1,000 soldiers would cost $50M and 10,000 soldiers would cost $500M USD.

#Mathishard

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Classic!
Also, I would imagine they are Russian, simply due to the civilian standing there nonchalantly - can't imagine that being the case if these were Ukrainian soldiers being detained by Russian soldiers.

I saw analysis of the picture indicating those are Ukrainian uniforms and weapons, with the Ukrainian POV saying they are Russia saboteurs illegally dressed in Ukrainian uniforms, while the Russian POV saying that they are Ukrainian soldiers captured by their own side before they could desert.

[playmaker]

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1498398506611994624

There are rumors flying around of the feds reaching out to numerous different oil & gas companies who have developments in the books. We gotta make up for that cut in production somehow.

Energy East would be amazing right now.
Keystone
Coastal Link
Trans Mountain

Ugh. We could be so prepared.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by calumniate

Yes but 90% of people won't have a discerning eye for that. Heck, I could put up a graph saying vaccinations cause rabies on twitter and I'd probably get 1000 likes.

I knew it!

[Leeman4Gilmour]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1498398506611994624

Glad it happened, sad it took a war to make it happen.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1496930973966995457

Almost 300 million last year (according to this) so not nothing.

Edit; Interesting to see if the Americans follow suit. From what I can see, they import ~600,000 bpd of Russian product.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1498398506611994624

Azure is hard as a ####ing rock right now.

[FlameOn]

Map updates for the day. Situation in south Ukraine isn't going as well with Russia linking up their Southern MD and airborne units. Russians seem to have taken the areas around Berdyansk and are also making inroads heading up from Melitopol on their way up to Dnipro. Western MD groupings are still heading to Kyiv to join up reinforce the Central MD grouping's siege of Kyiv but the advance seems to have slowed there.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1498306272839585793

Area of control map.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_R...ion_of_Ukraine

Situation in Kyiv

https://twitter.com/user/status/1498363143986327554

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

That's not all he demanded, which makes the full request ridiculous.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1498318222961094656

How about demilitarizing Ukraine but with the NATO guarantee in place? They are no threat but you mess with them and we drop the hammer.

[nik-]

https://www.barrons.com/news/turkey-...es-01646076907

Turkey said Monday it was blocking warships from the key Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits in line with a convention that gives it control over the passage of military vessels in the strategic area.

"We have alerted both countries of the region and elsewhere not to pass warships through the Black Sea," Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said. "We are applying the Montreux Convention."

[curves2000]

Is destroying the front, middle and rear of this massive 20 km convoy the key that needs to occur here for this war to tilt significantly in Ukraine's favor?


If we can get some air support and drone attacks to take out a sizeable portion of it in some capacity, it would render a lot of equipment useless.

There has to be a way for the west to provide some additional significant resources in the next day or so that will have a material impact on the outcome.

I am still stunned at how little, or how little support we all think is going to Ukraine from western democracies, EU and NATO.

You would think some Cyber attacks on critical communication to Russia would have occurred, some defensive mechanisms in place for the same Cyber attacks.

There has to be more outside level help that can assist here without getting boots on the ground or providing just some equipment. Like our favorite deli's, perhaps even Ukrainian ones where we know someone's put their finger on the scale to jack up the price, we gotta up the price for Putin.

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by transplant99

This is the propaganda coming out of Moscow





https://sputniknews.com/20220228/rus...093449218.html

Yup, Sputnik is propaganda at its finest!

[nik-]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Is destroying the front, middle and rear of this massive 20 km convoy the key that needs to occur here for this war to tilt significantly in Ukraine's favor?


If we can get some air support and drone attacks to take out a sizeable portion of it in some capacity, it would render a lot of equipment useless.

There has to be a way for the west to provide some additional significant resources in the next day or so that will have a material impact on the outcome.

I am still stunned at how little, or how little support we all think is going to Ukraine from western democracies, EU and NATO.

You would think some Cyber attacks on critical communication to Russia would have occurred, some defensive mechanisms in place for the same Cyber attacks.

There has to be more outside level help that can assist here without getting boots on the ground or providing just some equipment. Like our favorite deli's, perhaps even Ukrainian ones where we know someone's put their finger on the scale to jack up the price, we gotta up the price for Putin.

They have, but it turns out it doesn't even need to be that complex.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...ons_are_being/

The Russians are apparently using radios you can buy off Amazon. Unencrypted. There are threads on Reddit posting the frequencies they're using so you can listen in.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by edslunch

How about demilitarizing Ukraine but with the NATO guarantee in place? They are no threat but you mess with them and we drop the hammer.

If you were in charge of Ukraine would you take that deal?

The already gave up their nuclear weapons in exchange for the Budapest Memorandum many years ago, which hasn't exactly been respected. If you were them would you want promises from the west or your own weapons?