04-05-2018, 11:22 PM
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#1461
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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I doubt even Kipper would look good on this Flames team. They gave up way to many grade A scoring chances in the games that meant something.
Smith was and still is our MVP from the season. Without him we'd be in top 3 lottery position.
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04-06-2018, 12:40 AM
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#1462
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Calgary
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He is probably still rehabbing from his earlier injury. I'm more concerned about who is taking over after he is gone. Rittich and Gillies look like career backups so far.
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04-06-2018, 12:58 AM
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#1463
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Otto-matic
I doubt even Kipper would look good on this Flames team. They gave up way to many grade A scoring chances in the games that meant something.
Smith was and still is our MVP from the season. Without him we'd be in top 3 lottery position.
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Johnny Gaudreau is fat and away the MVP and has been since the all-star break. I like Smith but he’s been bad since mid-February.
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04-06-2018, 01:01 AM
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#1464
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by N-E-B
Johnny Gaudreau is fat and away the MVP and has been since the all-star break. I like Smith but he’s been bad since mid-February.
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Again... 36 year old workhorse goalie suffers brutal injury Feb. 11th, misses over a month of action... and he's "bad" f or the rest of the season?
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04-06-2018, 01:57 AM
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#1465
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lakebay, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
Again... 36 year old workhorse goalie suffers brutal injury Feb. 11th, misses over a month of action... and he's "bad" f or the rest of the season?
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Even if we give Mike all of January, he's a .910 save percentage since the calendar turned. I love Mike but that is a mediocre percentage. I still think we overused him early in the year and we paid for it the rest of the year.
Even with his entire season, he's a .916 save percentage or #20 in the league. I can't give him the team MVP for that.
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04-06-2018, 07:16 AM
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#1466
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Originally Posted by N-E-B
Johnny Gaudreau is fat and away the MVP and has been since the all-star break. I like Smith but he’s been bad since mid-February.
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I’ve seen fatter.
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04-06-2018, 08:21 AM
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#1467
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Psytic
He is probably still rehabbing from his earlier injury. I'm more concerned about who is taking over after he is gone. Rittich and Gillies look like career backups so far.
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In their very first back up seasons? What a leap.
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04-06-2018, 08:33 AM
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#1468
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Finishing strong in meaningless games with no pressure is very different than finishing strong with everything on the line.
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Somewhere Colbourne is still counting his money based off a "strong finish"
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04-06-2018, 08:35 AM
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#1469
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
Again... 36 year old workhorse goalie suffers brutal injury Feb. 11th, misses over a month of action... and he's "bad" f or the rest of the season?
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He was bad prior to the injury. Treliving even mentions it in that interview with Francis.
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04-06-2018, 08:38 AM
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#1470
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
Somewhere Colbourne is still counting his money based off a "strong finish"
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Jesus...I had to look him up just now. Colborne only played 13 games for the San Antonio Rampage this year, putting up just 4 points. Safe to say he's done in the NHL.
He made $2.5 million to do that this year as a buried contract.
For all the crap Treliving takes for signing some questionable free agents, it should also be noted that he bailed on players like Colborne despite some strong stats to support re-signing him. He does have good judgement some of the time.
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If we can't fall in love with replaceable bottom 6 players then the terrorists have won.
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04-06-2018, 10:29 AM
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#1471
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
He was bad prior to the injury. Treliving even mentions it in that interview with Francis.
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He had a few bad games prior to the injury. On the whole he was the main reason we weren't in lottery pick territory.
Regardless, it doesn't make the comment I responded to any less ignorant. Just tossing out a "He sucked after February" comment was ridiculous considering he missed a month with a significant injury and was obviously still struggling with it when he came back.
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04-06-2018, 10:34 AM
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#1472
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
He had a few bad games prior to the injury. On the whole he was the main reason we weren't in lottery pick territory.
Regardless, it doesn't make the comment I responded to any less ignorant. Just tossing out a "He sucked after February" comment was ridiculous considering he missed a month with a significant injury and was obviously still struggling with it when he came back.
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He's been mediocre/bad nearly all season at home and was playing poorly prior to sitting out during injury. He was lights out on the road most of the season though and considering that's where the team accumulated a lot of impressive wins there's no doubt when he was on his game he was a difference maker. His play at home this season has to be a concern regardless of injuries IMO.
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04-06-2018, 10:35 AM
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#1473
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Nah. He's been bad nearly all season at home and was playing poorly prior to sitting out during injury. He was lights out on the road most of the season though and considering that's where the team accumulated a lot of impressive wins there's no doubt when he was on his game he was a difference maker. His play at home this season has to be a concern regardless of injuries IMO.
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I'd say the home performance was more of a entire team issue over Smith IMO. The team for what ever reason forgot how to play hockey when they got home.
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04-06-2018, 10:37 AM
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#1474
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Otto-matic
I'd say the home performance was more of a entire team issue over Smith IMO. The team for what ever reason forgot how to play hockey when they got home.
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Goaltenders can play well in spite of the team in front of them and he really didn't do that at home and soft goals are not attributed to team play. He's let in his share of strange and soft goals this season and most of them in a red jersey.
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04-06-2018, 10:39 AM
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#1475
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Regardless, Smith suffered a pretty major injury at 37 years of age and is expected to shoulder the same load next season unless the Flames find a competent 1B to take half the starts. We all want the best for Gillies/Rittich but if they have to step in for an injured Smith at the start of the season and for longer than a month? Flames could be done quick.
Sure that's an extreme what if scenario, but after this year its a lot more plausible.
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04-06-2018, 10:47 AM
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#1476
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
He's been mediocre/bad nearly all season at home and was playing poorly prior to sitting out during injury.
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Again, my comment was about criticizing his play in Feb - April devoid of the context he was significantly injured and missed almost half that time period.
People can criticize without grandstanding and over-dramatizing.
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04-06-2018, 02:53 PM
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#1477
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Jesus...I had to look him up just now. Colborne only played 13 games for the San Antonio Rampage this year, putting up just 4 points. Safe to say he's done in the NHL.
He made $2.5 million to do that this year as a buried contract.
For all the crap Treliving takes for signing some questionable free agents, it should also be noted that he bailed on players like Colborne despite some strong stats to support re-signing him. He does have good judgement some of the time.
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Many fans, including myself, were disappointed that Colborne wouldnt have signed a similar deal in Calgary to what he signed in Colorado. IIRC Treliving even made the comment that Joe’s Colorado money was less than what he was asking for here. So before I give Treliving too much credit, it would be interesting to know if Colborne turned down a Calgary offer. What would have been really impressive is trading the guy for a pick based on their read of the player.
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