06-26-2017, 05:13 PM
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#61
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Yeah you don't mess around with Ferland.
Byron, Colborne, and Chiasson are all players worth the gamble of losing so you don't get saddled with a bad arbitration result. Can you imagine what Colborne might have received in arbitration? Yikes.
Ferly has a very unique skillset around the entire league, let alone just the Flames.
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06-26-2017, 05:16 PM
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#62
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesFanFromBC
No big surprises for me other than qualifying Linden Vey. Can't really see a situation where he gets into the lineup based on call up history last year.
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He has already signed a contract to play in Europe next season, so it was really just a formality that maintains the Flames' rights to him for another year in case he decides to return to North America after next season. It won't cost them anything.
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06-26-2017, 05:28 PM
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#63
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
He has already signed a contract to play in Europe next season, so it was really just a formality that maintains the Flames' rights to him for another year in case he decides to return to North America after next season. It won't cost them anything.
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I could only find a rumour about him signing in Europe
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06-26-2017, 05:54 PM
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#64
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I've been mulling this over the past few days. I really don't think there is enough room for chassion and think this is the right move. I'm a big fan of asset management but how much value does he really carry? 4th at most.
Also lots of people penciling in janko in to 3C right off the hop. I say move Tkachuk up with Gaudreau and Monahan on the left side sliding Johnny on the right. Give Janko ES reps with Backlund and Frolik. Bennett then gets Ferland and Lazar.
No need to go and make another Brower-like mistake in free agency. Only move I think I'd support in FA is Williams or Marleau on a 1 or 2 year deal.
Tkachuk-Monahan-Gaudreau
Jankowski-Backlund-Frolik
Ferland-Bennett-Lazar
Bouma-Stajan-Brower
Hamilton-Hathaway
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This deal is DONE, im not sure what the worry is. Heatly is an Oiler, just some paperwork to get done. This isnt another Nylander incident
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06-26-2017, 06:23 PM
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#65
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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No problem if Chiasson walks. The Flames have too many forwards and his goals are easily replaceable.
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06-26-2017, 06:26 PM
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#66
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
very good management from Treliving.
He likes Chiasson, likely wants him back, but refuses to get saddled to a bad arbitration result if he doesn't like it. Too risky for replacement level players.
Chiasson will be back.
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I hope not. Yeah, he's not terrible by any means, but still, they can easily do wtihout him.
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06-26-2017, 06:30 PM
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#67
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Section 120
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Chiasson is so soft and doesn't have the skill to make up for it. I take Hathaway 10 times out of 10.
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06-26-2017, 06:34 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Hathaway, if nothing else, is a great pest.
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06-26-2017, 06:40 PM
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#69
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin
Chiasson is so soft and doesn't have the skill to make up for it. I take Hathaway 10 times out of 10.
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Completely disagree. Once he was put in bottom 6 role he was a very effective player.
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06-26-2017, 06:40 PM
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#70
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Hathaway is a bubble player that's lucky to be playing in the NHL at all. Chiasson is an established NHL'er who'll get a contract somewhere.
We're talking about the difference of 8 career points and 100+ career points here, for players of roughly the same age. Chiasson is significantly more skilled than Hathaway.
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06-26-2017, 06:42 PM
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#71
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itse
Hathaway is a bubble player that's lucky to be playing in the NHL at all. Chiasson is an established NHL'er who'll get a contract somewhere.
We're talking about the difference of 8 career points and 100+ career points here, for players of about the same age. Chiasson is significantly more skilled than Hathaway.
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Whatever...
This team can do without Chiasson. Plus, it's not like they can just get rid of Brouwer or Stajan at this moment.
Chiasson's not a bad player, but they don't need him either.
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06-26-2017, 06:44 PM
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#72
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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I approve of all of this. Not against Chaisson coming back but only on a very cap friendly deal, glad Treliving seemingly sees it the same way
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06-26-2017, 06:46 PM
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#73
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl
This team can do without Chiasson.
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No disagreement there. I think he's useful, but I won't cry if he's not back.
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Plus, it's not like they can just get rid of Brouwer or Stajan at this moment.
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Well, theoretically there are always options, but I agree that it's not very likely.
They can however bury Bouma to the minors, which opens a spot. If Versteeg signs elsewhere that's another spot. Chiasson is hardly an allstar, but there are a lot worse options for the 4th line.
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06-26-2017, 07:51 PM
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#74
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Bennett - Jankowski - Lazar
Shinkaruk - Stajan - Brouwer
Hamilton, Hathaway
Giordano - Hamilton
Brodie - Hamonic
Kulak - Andersson
Bartkowski
Smith
Rittich/Gillies
Current roster if the Flames don't make another move to improve. Top line worked better with Ferland then it did with Chaisson. Second line re-united as you don't mess with success. Third line is the wildcard in potential.
Chaisson had his numbers last year inflated by playing on the top line and on the powerplay. Ferland quickly surpassed him in goals once Chaisson was dropped to the bottom 6. Even Brouwer past Chaisson in goals in the latter part of the year.
I see the Flames adding to the defense because I don't think you want to play Kulak and Andersson as 3rd pairing for the season in the mix with Bartkowski.
It is time the Flames bring up Jankowski and reward him for his play in Stockton just like the Penguins rewarding Guentzel for his play.
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06-26-2017, 08:13 PM
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#75
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Very happy they qualified Hathaway, Kulak and Wotherspoon. Not disappointed they did not qualify Chiasson. We needed to make room for Lazar, and Jankowski
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06-26-2017, 08:15 PM
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#76
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jul 2011
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As much as we all like Stajan, it is the right time for the Flames and Stajan to part ways, although I doubt that there is any market value.
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06-26-2017, 08:36 PM
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#77
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Tkachuk in the bottom 6? Not a chance.
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There is no top 6.
There's a middle 6
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06-26-2017, 09:06 PM
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#78
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
There is no top 6.
There's a middle 6
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It is more of a top-nine.
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06-26-2017, 10:55 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
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Wouldn't surprise me if Chiasson wasn't qualified because the Flames are signing Foo... supposedly a team offered him an NHL spot.
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06-26-2017, 11:16 PM
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#80
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
very good management from Treliving.
He likes Chiasson, likely wants him back, but refuses to get saddled to a bad arbitration result if he doesn't like it. Too risky for replacement level players.
Chiasson will be back.
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I would have stopped at replacement level. If he comes back it should be on a 2 way contract.
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