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Old 06-17-2017, 12:18 PM   #321
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Deals like this remind me of the 2009 Flames Sutter era.
I'm going to miss seeing the Flames draft people in the second round (except the core is still much younger).
This move is, yes. But the team is nothing like the 2009 Sutter era. The core of the team is way, way younger and is very much on the upswing. Whereas that entire team's agenda was milking everything they could out of players that were on their last few prime years, a core revolving around one RW.

We have to take care of the two or so seasons until Parsons/Gillies are ready to play games somehow. Spending under 5 mil on a proven starter with two seasons remaining seems like the way to go. Would people rather give up much better assets to get MAF, who might not even be a better goaltender here? Some would love it initially, but we'd quickly learn that MAF doesn't have a lot on Smith or Elliott aside from the winning background. And two of the three cup teams he was a part of were won on the performance of Matt Murray.

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Old 06-17-2017, 12:18 PM   #322
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That's actually about as fair of a trade as I think I've seen in a long time. Not sure if Smith is the answer or not but he's more reliable than anyone else we've had in a few years
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But he scores goals!

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Lmaooooooooooooooooooooooo what?
Johnson was included in this trade for expansion purposes. He could still return on July 1, which actually makes a lot of sense.
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I have no hope for this season. And honestly I'm beginning to doubt Treliving, if this is the best he can do. Hopefully he gets someone good as a backup and they steal the starting job?
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:19 PM   #326
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The thing to remember is if the Flames make the playoffs it becomes a 2nd, but would be mid to late. If the Flames miss the playoffs it stays a 3rd but it is early to mid.
So the difference in actual pick slot could be pretty small.
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Sorry I was not following the Hickey situation. Why was he not willing to sign in CGY? Money?
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:19 PM   #328
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the 3rd that could turn into 2nd if the flames make the playoffs sucks imo...
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Condition should've been on Hickey signing, not the Flames making the playoffs
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Johnson was included in this trade for expansion purposes. He could still return on July 1, which actually makes a lot of sense.
Chad Johnson as our #1A goaltender? That's ####ing worse than what we had last season
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:20 PM   #331
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Nope, don't like the conditional at all
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I have no hope for this season. And honestly I'm beginning to doubt Treliving, if this is the best he can do. Hopefully he gets someone good as a backup and they steal the starting job?
Overreact much?
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Whenever the consensus is that we won a trade we usually end up disappointed. Hoping the reverse is true and we're pleasantly surprised.
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:20 PM   #334
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Mike Smith faced on average:

34.38 shots against per game last season
15.10 were low danger (Saved 98.01% vs. League Avg of 97.91%)
10.83 were medium danger (Saved 92.61% vs. League Avg of 92.50%)
8.45 were high danger (Saved 83.73% vs. League Avg of 81.17%)

Brian Elliott faced on average:

27.81 shots against per game last season
13.01 were low danger (Saved 97.82% vs. League Avg of 97.91%)
8.28 were medium danger (Saved 93.84% vs. League Avg of 92.50%)
6.52 were high danger (Saved 79.13% vs. League Avg of 81.17%)




Now that's finalized, I expanded on the above numbers.

Smith was above league average in all three categories, while facing more shots per game than any other goalie
Smith was better than Elliott in high danger and low danger save %
Elliott was below league average in high danger and low danger save%
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Chad Johnson as our #1 goaltender? That's ####ing worse than last season lol
You must not know what 1a means I guess?
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Sorry I was not following the Hickey situation. Why was he not willing to sign in CGY? Money?
Probably opportunity.

Trading for Bartkowski and Stone, with the likely intention of keeping both in the system, probably didn't help his opinion of his chances here.
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Condition should've been on Hickey signing, not the Flames making the playoffs
this is what i was hoping
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:20 PM   #338
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Sorry I was not following the Hickey situation. Why was he not willing to sign in CGY? Money?
No reason given. Treliving on 960 said they were actively trying to sign him in April and hoped to have him signed soon, but then a week later he was named captain of the BU terriers for next season.

Would have been UFA on August 15, 2018
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Meh

Makes me think the rumours that the Flames made a hard push to sign Hickey and he refused were true. Not willing to take the chance he goes to UFA.
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Calgary drafts pretty poorly in the second round so I mean...
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