2017 NHL Draft

[Lanny_McDonald]

Andersson looks like an interesting player. Would be perfect if he hit from the other side of the plate. Stay away from that Thomas kid. Can't skate based on that video.

[Love]

Originally Posted by New Era

Can't skate based on that video.

Very interesting take

[MisterJoji]

Drop a few spots in the 1st round to pick up and additional 2nd. Use that 2nd to acquire Grubauer.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

Drop a few spots in the 1st round to pick up and additional 2nd. Use that 2nd to acquire Grubauer.

Trade down scenarios:

16 to Bruins for 18 (Bruins) + 55 (Oilers)

16 to Sens for 28-31 (Sens) + 48 (Flames)

16 to Arizona for 23 (Wild) + 35 (Yotes)

16 to Montreal for 25 (Habs) + 56 (Habs) + 87 (Habs)

[btimbit]

Interesting that both McKenzie and Button have Makar going 7th. He's fun to watch so really would be a bummer to see him go to the Coyotes

[Love]

Lias Andersson (on the far right) with Marty Brodeur. Looks like he know his way around the weight room

[JTech780]

Tolvanen has been falling on a lot of lists, if he fell to us at 16 I would be very excited. He is smaller and a left hand shot, but he's a sniper. Great shot, very good release.l, good hands.

We need more shooters on this team and in the prospect pool.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Trade down scenarios:

16 to Bruins for 18 (Bruins) + 55 (Oilers)

16 to Sens for 28-31 (Sens) + 48 (Flames)

16 to Arizona for 23 (Wild) + 35 (Yotes)

16 to Montreal for 25 (Habs) + 56 (Habs) + 87 (Habs)

No disrespect but I don't get the desire to trade down, especially in an iffy draft. We have to hit on our first (given that we moved our 2nd and 3rd). Probability of hitting at 16 is higher than the above scenarios as we will have our choice of who to pick can hiping someone falls to us.

Our prospect pool is deeper so there is less urgency to restock the cupboards through quantity, need to focus on quality.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

No disrespect but I don't get the desire to trade down, especially in an iffy draft. We have to hit on our first (given that we moved our 2nd and 3rd). Probability of hitting at 16 is higher than the above scenarios as we will have our choice of who to pick can hiping someone falls to us.

Our prospect pool is deeper so there is less urgency to restock the cupboards through quantity, need to focus on quality.

I agree. Lots of depth in the pool. If anything I would trade up, but the flames are not really in a position to do that.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

No disrespect but I don't get the desire to trade down, especially in an iffy draft. We have to hit on our first (given that we moved our 2nd and 3rd). Probability of hitting at 16 is higher than the above scenarios as we will have our choice of who to pick can hiping someone falls to us.

Our prospect pool is deeper so there is less urgency to restock the cupboards through quantity, need to focus on quality.

No desire to, just listing some of the possibilities out there based on who below us has multiple 1sts and/or 2nds.

If the Flames list dictates that they can drop down a bit and still get a guy they want while picking up and extra pick, they will do it, especially if it helps them grab a goalie they want for next season.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by JTech780

Tolvanen has been falling on a lot of lists, if he fell to us at 16 I would be very excited. He is smaller and a left hand shot, but he's a sniper. Great shot, very good release.l, good hands.

We need more shooters on this team and in the prospect pool.

We need more good all around players on this team, not just good shooters. Adding one dimensional players isn't what this team needs (don't know enough about this prospect to say if this is the case). If he's a cammalleri type player, pass as teams that win don't have these type of players on their roster. Tippett is another one that gives me pause due to his "best shooter in the draft" status. Players with more goals than assists may be the beneficiary of playing with good players instead of being a good player and making the players around them better.

[Moneyhands23]

Im probably on my own on this thought.

But I think if we cant land Flury or a good option in goal (at a reasonable price) I would be interested in moving up in the draft in a questionable way.

I think I would go after the Dallas 1st pick.

Swap of 1sts, and take one of their goalies.

I think we would have to add a prospect, but I think it would be worth it depending on the prospect.

[N26]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Im probably on my own on this thought.

But I think if we cant land Flury or a good option in goal (at a reasonable price) I would be interested in moving up in the draft in a questionable way.

I think I would go after the Dallas 1st pick.

Swap of 1sts, and take one of their goalies.

I think we would have to add a prospect, but I think it would be worth it depending on the prospect.

While I don't know if I agree with this move (probably not) I like to see a little original thinking here.

Lehtonen is not a terrible goalie, he's average, but has suffered in Dallas' lack of a defensive style of play.

If there wasn't a clear cut 1 and 2 in this draft followed by a real guessing game it would be a great idea

[Love]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Im probably on my own on this thought.

But I think if we cant land Flury or a good option in goal (at a reasonable price) I would be interested in moving up in the draft in a questionable way.

I think I would go after the Dallas 1st pick.

Swap of 1sts, and take one of their goalies.

I think we would have to add a prospect, but I think it would be worth it depending on the prospect.

Sounds like wishful thinking.

[iloveicedhockey]

Had a quick look at Dallas and they have 20m space, with 4 forwards and 3 d men. Obviously that doesn't count cheap youngsters coming in.

I think that's the best way to get rid of a goalie in terms of money but I don't know what they'd prefer. Clearly they had a plan.

Also noticed hudler and sharp are UFA. Interesting....

[FCAV]

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[Bingo]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

No disrespect but I don't get the desire to trade down, especially in an iffy draft. We have to hit on our first (given that we moved our 2nd and 3rd). Probability of hitting at 16 is higher than the above scenarios as we will have our choice of who to pick can hiping someone falls to us.

Our prospect pool is deeper so there is less urgency to restock the cupboards through quantity, need to focus on quality.

Treliving and the Flames don't see it as a move up or move down draft. They have a list of players they want and if the list is gone and they don't like the next band they move down.

If the guy they really want is on the board a few picks before them they move up.

They certainly don't go into a draft with a plan of moving up or down, unless the player they want absolutely needs them to move up.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Im probably on my own on this thought.

But I think if we cant land Flury or a good option in goal (at a reasonable price) I would be interested in moving up in the draft in a questionable way.

I think I would go after the Dallas 1st pick.

Swap of 1sts, and take one of their goalies.

I think we would have to add a prospect, but I think it would be worth it depending on the prospect.

The third overall pick? You think taking on a goalie will move us to the third overall? Even in a weaker draft that's not reasonable, and the old Calgarypuck special "well, toss in a prospect as a sweetener" won't do it.

[JTech780]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

We need more good all around players on this team, not just good shooters. Adding one dimensional players isn't what this team needs (don't know enough about this prospect to say if this is the case). If he's a cammalleri type player, pass as teams that win don't have these type of players on their roster. Tippett is another one that gives me pause due to his "best shooter in the draft" status. Players with more goals than assists may be the beneficiary of playing with good players instead of being a good player and making the players around them better.

Outside of Monahan this team doesn't have a pure goal scorer on the main team or in the prospect pool. Gaudreau can score goals but he is much more of a pass first player, same with Tkachuk.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by JTech780

Outside of Monahan this team doesn't have a pure goal scorer on the main team or in the prospect pool. Gaudreau can score goals but he is much more of a pass first player, same with Tkachuk.

Pavel brendl was a great shooter and went very high on his draft year. But never amounted to much because he didn't have a complete game. Not saying Tippett or Tolvanen are same type of player but have to rely on scouts and their judgment to avoid one dimensional players who have great stats but obvious jokes in their game.