Would you re-sign Brian Elliott?

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

You want to see what the stats are for Hitchcock for the previous 20 years?

You want to see what the Stats are for Hitchcock the previous six years without Elliott? Nothing special.

[codynw]

God no. Hiller last year was better, and he's out of the NHL.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018

Agree. At age 24 we do not need to shelter Rittich. Rittich is 4th in the AHL in GAA and 3rd in SA this year albeit with limited minutes.

It is time now to see what he can do. Get him a string of AHL games this month and call him up in February.


1 Zane McIntyre 682:27 1.41 0.951
2 Juuse Saros 782:39 1.76 0.938
3 Ken Appleby 717:22 1.84 0.928
4 David Rittich 703:19 1.96 0.929
5 Troy Grosenick 1019:38 2.12 0.928

I do not care one bit if Elliott sits or gets waived. Huge drop off in Save Percentage this year. He has the lowest SA (0.889) of any goalie in league this year who have played more than 12 games!

Chad Johnson (0.920) sits at 16th across league just above Talbot, Luongo and Smith. I have a hard time blaming the team for Elliott's woes.

FWIW, Juuse Saros has transitioned to the NHL for Nashville and has put up spectacular numbers in limited action:

GP-7, W-3, L-3, OT-1, GAA-1.29, Sv%-.955.

If Rittich comes anywhere close to his AHL numbers I'd be ecstatic.

[Yrebmi]

Originally Posted by Corral

Elliot will have no interest in signing here next year unless things turn around for him dramatically - there's no need to ask whether the Flames should re-sign him at this point.

While my initial reaction was to agree with this post, it occurs to me that Elliott -unless things turn around for him dramatically - will be in no position to be choosy.

Calgary just might be garnering a reputation for killing tender careers. Thank God Johnson has looked good, or we would be forced to start thinking it's not the goalie but the team.

Goal tending coaching? Can we poach Vancouver's people? They always seem to get good net minders despite sub par teams.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by codynw

God no. Hiller last year was better, and he's out of the NHL.

Now you've gone too far

[boogerz]

Not a chance Elliot gets signed. Keep the 3rd rounder and hope that Rittich or Gillies is ready for the big show next year. If they're not, the Isles seem willing to give Halak away for next to nothing.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

Freddy Andersen was the guy to get. Great trade. In his prime years, and 5 million is a nice contract.

He's not an elite goaltender. I wouldn't want any part of that contract.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

Freddy Andersen was the guy to get. Great trade. In his prime years, and 5 million is a nice contract.

How many two goal leads has he choked this year?

[EVERLAST]

No. C J has been a pleasant surprise. We have 2 goalies elsewhere that are better than Elliot right now.

He looks like a different goalie than I used to watch.

[FlameZilla]

You have to think at this stage he'd be a pretty cheap option. He hasn't been anywhere near as good as I thought he would be, but that doesn't mean that he won't eventually pull it together. He lets in a surprising amount of weak goals, which must really deflate the team.

How are the youngsters looking? Parsons is realistically a few years away. Is Gillies a legitimate option to split the duties with Johnson next season?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by EVERLAST

No. C J has been a pleasant surprise. We have 2 goalies elsewhere that are better than Elliot right now.



He looks like a different goalie than I used to watch.

Two??

Who are these better goalies?

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He's not an elite goaltender. I wouldn't want any part of that contract.

That contract is 18th highest among goalies.
Do you really need "Elite"? The elite goalies have never won cups.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

You want to see what the Stats are for Hitchcock the previous six years without Elliott? Nothing special.

Actually, the stats were fine. He had some very good years. Even made Columbus have success.

[Fire]

Before the season started I would have signed Elliott to an extension but now I wouldn't offer him a contract unless he rebounds before the end of the season.

Sign Johnson to a reasonable two year deal and let Riitich and Gillies fight it out for the other spot. A bit risky if Johnson drops the ball but I would be ok with it.

[Mister Yamoto]

Don't extend either one of them. No need to handcuff yourself to a goalie with an expansion draft coming up.

[TheScorpion]

Ryan Miller, I'd go after.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He's not an elite goaltender. I wouldn't want any part of that contract.

Andersen has looked fairly good and his contract is not outrageous. I believe Leafs are happy with their decision and feel they have a #1.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Fire

Before the season started I would have signed Elliott to an extension but now I wouldn't offer him a contract unless he rebounds before the end of the season.

Sign Johnson to a reasonable two year deal and let Riitich and Gillies fight it out for the other spot. A bit risky if Johnson drops the ball but I would be ok with it.

That is really risky. Flames can't go another year without a true #1 IMO.

[Split98]

I think Johnson has proven to have great potential here in Calgary. Without him, we're talking about the draft right now. I don't pretend that the hot streak was the Johnson we can expect to see nightly, but he absolutely earned a spot here next year.

This year, he's our starter. Elliott has been given enough opportunity to take the reigns so I hope the Chad is given an extension and the games he's earned. If we can find a taker, try and move Elliott this year. Otherwise, show him the press box for the rest of the season.

As Calgary4LIfe mentioned earlier, we have two goalies in the AHL right now that are going to need contracts next year. Rittich is a good goalie, and has put up 1.96/.929 this season. I'd love to see him get a few games on the Flames this year so see what we've got. Gillies hasn't been great, but we know he'll be offered a contract. He's got a ton of potential we'll want to see through.

But a Johnson/Rittich or a Johnson/Gillies tandem has potential to be an upgrade on what we're seeing from Elliott. If we make the playoffs it'll be in spite of Brian's starts I doubt he sees a game in the post-season. I see no problems playing either one of those two in Brian's place. The bottom feeders he's beaten were certainly not something Rittich or Gillies couldn't handle... and he lets in enough softies that there's no risk trying someone else. Really, we can only improve on his starts.

Next year, we know what we have in Johnson and we have Gillies and Parsons to look forward to. I don't think we should be making any big moves for a starter quite yet, and certainly not making any commitment to Elliott. None of them are sure things, but all have potential to do very well here. It wouldn't be unheard of to have one of our 5 prospects push for a spot next year. Not saying that is what WILL happen, just that we shouldn't close the door on that quite yet. With Johnson now, I feel comfortable enough that we have someone in net that can cover the starts. He may not light the NHL on fire, but he's good enough to do the job. Or hell... he HAS already lit the NHL on fire once before. Who's to say that Johnson hot-streak ISN'T the real Johnson?

Either way, I've seen no upside to having Elliott around.

[Split98]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

That is really risky. Flames can't go another year without a true #1 IMO.

It's no riskier than putting in Elliott. I have to think that Gillies or Rittich can't do worse than what we've seen from Elliott.

I also don't think that Chad should be OUT of the discussion as the #1.