Sign Johnny to a long-term deal, further evaluate Monny on a short bridge

[GranteedEV]

We all assume these players will get identical deals because Toews and Kane did, Eberle, Hall, Nugent-Hopkins did, Getzlaf and Perry did etc.

But these two players are at different stages in their development. I think Johnny Hockey is a franchise player right now. Sean Monahan put up stats last year but there's a lot of growth in his game to be realized. From what I'm seeing of Monahan this year, he's taken some definite forward strides in his game, but he shouldn't get the same money that Johnny is getting - right now.

Bridging Monahan also buys the team time to pay all four of Monahan, Hudler, Bennett, and Gaudreau.

Thoughts? Is there a "business worry" about offending Monahan by paying Gaudreau long term and bridging him?

[BigT112]

It won't happen. They will get similar deals.

[Finger Cookin]

I will inform their agents. I expect both deals to be done within 48-72 hours.

I'm confident that both players will get sensible deals. The AAV may or may not be slightly higher for Johnny. I'd be leaning towards him getting a little bit more over a similar term. Only time will tell.

[Moneyhands23]

I think both players should get 7 year deals. With the Gio signing setting the bar it's a great time to get term for a decent $ per year. I think the $ amount may not be equal between the 2 but I think term should be equal. I feel a bridge deal on either player could come back to haunt the Flames.

Question is, how much $ do they get??

[Moneyhands23]

When can they sign new contracts??

[PepsiFree]

Yeah, tandem deal no question.

If Johnny is a franchise player because of his offensive skills, Monahan is one because of his all-around ability.

They get the same deals. Bridge both, or pay both. Doesn't matter.

I would guess 4.5-5.5 each.

[flylock shox]

The only value in giving them identical contracts is to send a message that they are the core long term leaders on the team, and to ensure their commitment to Calgary for the majority of their careers. Otherwise the market will set their values.

I think Johnny is worth more now, but Monahan has more potential to improve. I'd be okay with similar contracts for this reason. Who knows how good Monahan will be after a bridge deal, and how much he'd command.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

We all assume these players will get identical deals because Toews and Kane did, Eberle, Hall, Nugent-Hopkins did, Getzlaf and Perry did etc.

But these two players are at different stages in their development. I think Johnny Hockey is a franchise player right now. Sean Monahan put up stats last year but there's a lot of growth in his game to be realized. From what I'm seeing of Monahan this year, he's taken some definite forward strides in his game, but he shouldn't get the same money that Johnny is getting - right now.

Bridging Monahan also buys the team time to pay all four of Monahan, Hudler, Bennett, and Gaudreau.

Thoughts? Is there a "business worry" about offending Monahan by paying Gaudreau long term and bridging him?

Disagree with your thoughts on Monahan. Gaudreau is likely as special as you suggest, but you are under rating Monahan, likely because he's not as Flashy as Gaudreau, but Monahan plays a much more important and difficult position and is actually younger than Gaudreau.

Re-signing a 32 year old Hudler should not be a priority for this young team, especially not if it means to play games with the contract of our first promising young franchise player potential centre we've seen in decades. Don't forget how badly this team struggled last time it's franchise player was an exceptional winger with no complimentary star at centre.

[EldrickOnIce]

Bridge can offer some flexibility, in short term anyway. Galchenyuk 2 year deal is good example. Monahan bridge might be a bit more than that deal, but could be a good benchmark

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

When can they sign new contracts??

They were eligible to sign new contracts since July 1st, 2015

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

They were eligible to sign new contracts since July 1st, 2015

Interesting. I wonder if any negotiations have taken place yet? Also if how this current season will effect negotiations?

[devo22]

Gaudreau is obviously the flashier player, but IMO Monahan is just as important. He scored 31 goals last year as a 20-year-old ... and the list of players who have scored 30 at that age is pretty short since the lockout. Only 9 other players have done it and Monahan is the first since 2011-12.

52 Alex Ovechkin (2005-06)
51 Steven Stamkos (2009-10)
39 Sidney Crosby (2005-06)
34 Jonathan Toews (2008-09)
33 Evgeni Malkin (2006-07)
32 Anze Kopitar (2007-08)
31 Sean Monahan (2015-16)
31 Patrice Bergeron (2005-06)
31 Jeff Skinner (2010-11)
30 Evander Kane (2011-12)

Sign him to a long-term deal.

[calgaryblood]

Give them both 8 year $54 million.

[Fireface]

Monahan just scored his 100th career point and has already put up a 20 and a 30 goal season. He's the team's undisputed number one center, a responsible defensive forward, and if his numbers are anywhere similar this season to what they were last season, he'll get exactly what he deserves--a long term deal that rivals Gaudreau's.

He may not be as dynamic, but he is every bit the franchise player Gaudreau is and you simply don't play games with a player of his caliber. Oh, and he just turned 21 two weeks ago.

[Geeoff]

Bridge deals are overrated. I'd sign them both 8 yrs $6million if possible.

[868904]

Yea I think that would be a complete slap in the face to Monahan.

[JiriHrdina]

I think the organization views Monahan as the more important of the two - and wouldn't be surprised to see his deal get done first. A long one at that.
Again - I think re-signing Hudler is a mistake, unless the term and $s are the right ones. But I assume he wants big numbers on both. Don't do it.
The organization has to make very good decisions on guys like that.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Bridge deals are overrated. I'd sign them both 8 yrs $6million if possible.

Agreed. I don't know if 6 will be enough but I think they can be done for less than 7. Something like 50-52M each for 8 years.

[FBI]

I think they will get the same long term deals. They are best buds, both super valuable to the team, and they deserve it. I'm sure they'll Both be pumped with 8*6.

[Gaskal]

I assume that Brad lets the two goalies and Jones walk. That's $12.3m in space, enough to sign the two to long term for $6m per. After that you worry about the others, although the Flames may elect to trade Russell or Hudler at the deadline or draft. Jooris and Colborne probably get requalified.