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Old 04-23-2014, 03:28 PM   #581
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I disagree. Jones > ekblad. Drouin > Reinhart. Barkov > draisatl. Monahan > dal colle. Zadorov, ristolainen > fleury. Nichuskin. The top of the other draft was better. No doubt about it.
The prospects this year just have more question marks.

Where does Bennett fit in?
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Old 04-23-2014, 03:32 PM   #582
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I'm not saying I'm on board with this but it is an interesting question.
would anybody trade next years 1st round draft pick (supposed to be a good draft) for buffalo's first round pick this year.?

This would give buffalo a shot at McDavid (because honestly are they going to get any better). So unless we when the lottery there isn't a possibility, assuming calgary is better next year.

If this trade is made you would get Ekbald and one of the vastly discussed forwards. The downfall is if you happen to be bottom two next year it would look like a bad trade.
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Old 04-23-2014, 03:36 PM   #583
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I know a woman who went to school in Hanna with MacDonald, she hates Lanny. I found it amusing.
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Old 04-23-2014, 03:41 PM   #584
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I'm not saying I'm on board with this but it is an interesting question.
would anybody trade next years 1st round draft pick (supposed to be a good draft) for buffalo's first round pick this year.?

This would give buffalo a shot at McDavid (because honestly are they going to get any better). So unless we when the lottery there isn't a possibility, assuming calgary is better next year.

If this trade is made you would get Ekbald and one of the vastly discussed forwards. The downfall is if you happen to be bottom two next year it would look like a bad trade.
We definitely shouldn't be trading next years 1st.
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We definitely shouldn't be trading next years 1st.
can you explain your reasoning. As I said I'm not necessarily on board with this. But you would have to estimate where you think you would perform next year and what you think that draft pick would be. Factor in the odds of the lottery, as it is assumed that we wouldn't make the playoffs. Then measure if that chance of getting a good pick this year (1st in this thought process) is better than getting a decent pick next year.
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can you explain your reasoning. As I said I'm not necessarily on board with this. But you would have to estimate where you think you would perform next year and what you think that draft pick would be. Factor in the odds of the lottery, as it is assumed that we wouldn't make the playoffs. Then measure if that chance of getting a good pick this year (1st in this thought process) is better than getting a decent pick next year.
Because our pick next year is going to be a legit chance to get someone better. I don't expect this team to be any better next year. Burke himself has already admitted it's going to be a high pick next year.
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Old 04-23-2014, 03:59 PM   #588
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I know a woman who went to school in Hanna with MacDonald, she hates Lanny. I found it amusing.
I'm not lanny's biggest fan either, but that was due to playing against his kid in Junior when Lanny was the coach. He didn't really like me either due to the fact I kept beating up his players.
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Burke flat out said he didn't like him, it would be a quick reversal in thinking if he already changed his mind. I don't think it's impossible for the Flames to draft Draisaitl but I would be surprised if it did happen. I believe Burke would prefer to draft a North American as well if the assessment between the two are close. Dal Colle would be a good pick up, I just hope he plays center in junior next season. The Flames don't need anymore LWers.
Yeah Burke did say that but in the next week he then said the German kid is right up there with the other top 3 players in the draft. I think maybe he either was sending mixed signals to other GMs or was misinformed on just how good this kids is and his scouts may have brought him up to date a bit there. Anyhow, if he is on the board I think we have to take him, he has the skill, size, weight, puck control and aggression that we need on this team.
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Where does Bennett fit in?

Whoops. Well I think he's right there with Reinhart, dal colle and draisatl. All Of the top prospects are just a teir down from last year in my opinion.
Each prospect has question marks.
Draisatl - game breaking speed, consistency
Dal colle- has to prove he can do more that just put up points
Reinhart- mediocre shot
Bennett- still a little small for the gritty game he plays.

Jones was considered the best d prospect to come along in quite some time and I still feel he will be an absolute superstar.
Mackinnon is the next big thing.
Barkov was the best draft eligible Finnish prospect.
Lindholm was outstanding in Sweden and considered the best Swedish forward prospect since the Sedins.
Drouin is the definition of dynamic.
Monahan was the complete forward that was considered a lock to be a future captain.
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Sounds like the stuff I've heard about Dion from people who went to school with him.
I don't know about school, but my brother met him (working retail at a clothing store Downtown for a summer job years ago) and said he's the biggest ######-hat + Man-baby he's ever met by a wide margin. He apparently was also whining the clothes were too expensive ($70 a shirt). While true, this is coming from a guy who at the time drove a Masarati wasn't the most convincing comment that day. My brother said he basically pouted in the corner while his gf was looking for clothes for him.

Contrarily, I was told that his gf at the time (Elisha Cuthbert?) was very cordial with staff, took pictures with them and extended nothing but kindness and patience for both mixups from staff and Phaneuf's Man-baby act. One can only hope Elisha Cuthbert has sorted him out.
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can you explain your reasoning. As I said I'm not necessarily on board with this. But you would have to estimate where you think you would perform next year and what you think that draft pick would be. Factor in the odds of the lottery, as it is assumed that we wouldn't make the playoffs. Then measure if that chance of getting a good pick this year (1st in this thought process) is better than getting a decent pick next year.
It's really pretty simple. We're going to be bad next year. Rolling the dice and guessing that we might be 21-25th bad instead of 26-30th bad is a terrible idea when there's a generational talent available next draft.

Horrible idea to deal next year's first.
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It's really pretty simple. We're going to be bad next year. Rolling the dice and guessing that we might be 21-25th bad instead of 26-30th bad is a terrible idea when there's a generational talent available next draft.

Horrible idea to deal next year's first.
Not only McDavid but also Eichel (sp?) and that Dman whose name escapes me right now. Very good players at the top. On top of that, the rumbling about them considering doing lottery for the first three picks is even more of an incentive incase they go that route.
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Not only McDavid but also Eichel (sp?) and that Dman whose name escapes me right now. Very good players at the top. On top of that, the rumbling about them considering doing lottery for the first three picks is even more of an incentive incase they go that route.
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Because our pick next year is going to be a legit chance to get someone better. I don't expect this team to be any better next year. Burke himself has already admitted it's going to be a high pick next year.
I don't think they will get worse. Flames will probably pick in 5-10 range in the 2015 draft and there is always the chance that the Flames surprise us.

So is the player available next year in that space worth a bona-fide NHL player available this year with BUFs pick?

I'd do CGY 2015 1st for BUF 2014 1st and see if they will add a prospect or young roster player. But I don't think you will convince anyone in the NHL that Flames will finish worse in 2015 than in 2014.

If Calgary gets Bennet or Ekblad with BUF 2014 1st they are probably going to have a few really good rookies next year (Johnny Hockey, Poirier). Maybe we get Flames playoff hockey with a super fast and hard working team in 2015.

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Eichel has 5 points in 4 games so far at the Under 18s, Hanifin has 4 points in 4 games (and i have seen tweets about him looking better than Seth Jones did at a similar age in the tourney).

Although Sonny Milano (they list him as Frank on the IIHF site) leads their team in scoring with 6 points. He's ranked 16th by Central Scouting in North America. Boston College committed player although if he's drafted high he could end up in the OHL.

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It's the 5-10 spots you have to look to for the Flames.

This team is getting better, not worse. There is zero chance they will get any of the first three players unless they extend the lottery.

If Hanifin is better than Jones, does that mean he would be better than Ekblad with a full NHL season under his belt?

I don't think BUF will trade this year's first - but they seem committed to being terrible. Playing the long con I guess.
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