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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Has Iginla ever played LW in his hockey career?
Is Iginla a massive upgrade to Chicago with Hossa and Kane already playing RW? How effective can Iginla be playing 3rd line/2nd PP minutes where it where it would justify Chicago giving up serious assets for him?
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You're kidding, right? Chicago's *"top-six" consists of:
Brendan Saad · Jonathan Toews · Patrick Kane
Bryan Bickell · Andrew Shaw · Marian Hossa.
LA's consists of:
Dustin Penner · Anze Kopitar · Justin Williams
Dwight King · Trevor Lewis · Dustin Brown
* Please note that NHL depth charts are also not clearly indicative of every player's role in the lineup, and that not all teams in the NHL continue to employ a "top/bottom-six" playing philosophy.
Are you really going to continue with this charade and pretend that Jarome Iginla—the highest goal-scorer of the past decade who is coming off his 11th consecutive +30-goal season, and is on (pro-rated) pace for his 14th consecutive +20-goal season—can't dislodge even ONE of the above players from his respective position?
I don't even have to know whether or not Iginla has played LW in his career to know the answer to your first question. As to the second question, we don't know, nor can we really guess what each respective team is willing to sacrifice for a playoff run with Jarome Iginla. It varies from one team to another, but you would be utterly remiss to assume that there is only a modicum of interest. The opportunity to land a player of Iginla's calibre is indeed a rare occurrence.
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Sure we don't know the length of the list or who's on it, I'm just discussing possibilities based on what we've heard on a discussion forum. We've heard that there's possibly 5 teams on the list and that some of the teams on that list may not really need much of Iginla due to their own organizational strengths.
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I don't recall ever seeing any such thing reported. I do remember one media analyst from Pittsburgh suggesting something of the sort, but it was hardly as clear as you are insinuating, and it was a speculation from a journalist with connections to ONE team.
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
...Which boils down to the main point, trading a player with an NTC to a list of teams wont get you full value.
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I don't think anyone here has contested that point, but this is an entirely different matter from what you have claimed in your previous few posts on this topic. The fact remains that the return for Iginla—based on what we have witnessed from the market so far—is likely to be exceptionally high. Based on the reports we have heard, there is likely to be multiple teams competing for his services.
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
As an aside, I could poke a bunch of holes in what you're saying as well to demonstrate how "utterly ridiculous" some of your statements are. Such as the Brown comparison. Did you watch Dustin Brown last year dominate the playoffs? Do you really think that Iginla would be a better option for LA than Brown for bigger minutes?
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Seriously? Iginla is a top-line player on every NHL team and under any circumstances. Yes, I watched Dustin Brown in last year's playoffs, and yes I agree that he was excellent. But none of this changes the fact that Brown is not the same calibre a player as Jarome Iginla.
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
We're all entitled to our opinion but that statement alone suggests to me that you are not evaluating this situation too rationally and instead letting the myth of Iginla get in the way of understanding what I'm saying.
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What myth?! It is undeniable that Jarome Iginla is one of the very best hockey players of his generation. It is incontrovertible that even though he has clearly lost a step, and is not as dominant as he once was, he is STILL one of the best players in the NHL.
Further to the point, what are you saying?
My first responses were to your unfounded and unlikely supposition that the Boston Bruins were the only team in a position to pull the trigger on a trade for Iginla. My more recent responses have been to counter your laughable insistence that Iginla will only fit on the third line of a team with existing offensive depth.
So, what exactly have you been trying to say? If it is that a player with a NTC will not command the same level of return as without, then why did you not simply say so? We could all have agreed and then moved on.
