Sochi 2014

[Bill Bumface]

They have to spend a few billion upgrading the power infrastructure to actually have power to the whole city in time for the Olympics. Oh boy.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

They have to spend a few billion upgrading the power infrastructure to actually have power to the whole city in time for the Olympics. Oh boy.

Calgary should get ready as the back up. You need a new arena anyways.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Slava

It takes forever to build a single leg of the LRT here nevermind erecting stadiums and sporting facilities at the same time. The russian economy is not exactly roaring ahead right now either...

... which is the best time to build stuff.

[Tyler]

2014 has disaster in the making written all over it. I wonder if Vancouver may have to re-host if things don't get finished. Have a read:

http://www.thestar.com/opinion/artic...astrous-choice

After a lacklustre athletic performance at the Winter Olympics in Vancouver, Russia now looks ahead to the 2014 Winter Games in Sochi. Vladimir Putin's government hopes the event will showcase Russia's return to superpower status, but critics think the Kremlin's headaches have only just begun. Last week, Boris Nemtsov – opposition leader, former deputy prime minister, and one-time Sochi mayoral candidate – spoke with Foreign Policy magazine's Joshua Keating about his concerns for his hometown.

Foreign Policy: So why do you believe it is a mistake to hold the 2014 Winter Olympics in your hometown, Sochi?

Boris Nemtsov: In all of Russian history, I can think of only one example as crazy as this. After he visited Iowa, (Soviet Premier Nikita) Khrushchev, told farmers around Murmansk, above the Arctic Circle, to grow corn in the frozen tundra. (Prime Minister Vladimir) Putin is now repeating Khrushchev's experience.

He has found one of the only places in Russia where there is no snow in the winter. He has decided to build these ice rinks in the warmest part of the warmest region. Sochi is subtropical. There is no tradition of skating or hockey there. In Sochi, we prefer football, and volleyball, and swimming. Other parts of Russia need ice palaces – we don't.

FP: But isn't the construction good for the local economy?

BN: It is disastrous. Roughly 5,000 people have been forced out of their homes to make room for the Olympic facilities, and thanks to the corruption and incompetence of authorities, have not yet been adequately compensated for their property or been given equivalent housing elsewhere, as they were promised. Billions of dollars have simply disappeared. All this sacrifice is for facilities that will most likely not be used when the Games are over.

FP: What are the problems besides the weather?

BN: These Olympics will be an economic and ecological catastrophe. A road being built from Sochi to the ski areas in the nearby mountains will cost around $130 million per kilometre. This is now one of the world's most expensive roads and a symbol of corruption. The road will also pass directly through environmentally sensitive areas under the protection of UNESCO.

Putin seems to think he can buy success. When Sochi was awarded the Olympics at the 2007 (International Olympic Committee) meeting in Guatemala, he promised to spend $13 billion on them. Vancouver has only spent $2 billion. It's certainly possible that with the level of corruption in Russia, $13 billion is what will be needed to get anything done after everyone has had their cut, but we don't think this is very good for Russia, or for the world.

Sometimes, it seems like God doesn't even want the Olympics in Sochi. Putin's close friend, the oligarch Oleg Deripaska, attempted to build a sea cargo port in Sochi, but a huge storm in the Black Sea (in late 2009) destroyed it. They should have taken this as a sign that God doesn't want this to happen!

FP: What about terrorism? Sochi is near some very dangerous areas of the North Caucasus.

BN: I don't think terrorism will be a big problem. There is not much of that in Sochi. The bigger concerns are organized crime – which is very active there – and government corruption.

FP: What response have you gotten for raising these issues?

BN: It is impossible in Russia today to criticize any of the government's decisions in the government-controlled media. My movement, Solidarity, has several times proposed public debates on the Games, but nobody from the Russian Olympic committee has agreed to take part.

FP: Why do you think the International Olympic Committee went along with the idea?

BN: I believe that the organization is under very strong pressure from Putin and there is an informal relationship between him and the committee. Eventually, there will be an international investigation to bring to light why this decision was made. Whether it happens before or after the Olympics will depend on the level of interest of the international community. But the truth will come out and the IOC will have to answer for it.

[3 Justin 3]

He is the opposition leader so of course he is going to bitch/exaggerate about everything. How ever, I am guessing a lot of what he is saying is true.

I never understood Sochi, and I am willing to guess it will be a massive failure.

Is there anyway they would re-choose where to host it?

[holden]

This is the country that when threatened by the invading German army disassembled hundreds of factories bolt by bolt and moved them across the country in a matter of months. After a terrible outting in Vancouver and their national pride on the ropes, I'm sure the Russkies will be ready no matter what the cost.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

He is the opposition leader so of course he is going to bitch/exaggerate about everything. How ever, I am guessing a lot of what he is saying is true.

I never understood Sochi, and I am willing to guess it will be a massive failure.

Is there anyway they would re-choose where to host it?

I'm sure lots of what he said was valid, but the parts about how Sochi doesn't need those types of facilities doesn't tell the whole story.

If you look at Sochi 2014's website, it says that basically all the Olympic village venues (ie; hockey rink, oval, etc.) are designed so they are mobile and will be transported to other Russian cities for permanent homes after the Olympics.

If the opposition leader is conveniently ignoring that relevant information in that interview it's hard to believe that he's not leaving out more important info as well.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

Is there anyway they would re-choose where to host it?

Sure it can happen. It would go back to a recent host. I would guess Torino in order to keep it in Europe.

[burning_acid1]

I don't think 4 years is enough for Sochi to get ready to host the next winter Olympics.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by burning_acid1

I don't think 4 years is enough for Sochi to get ready to host the next winter Olympics.

They've had since 07 to plan for this, and it's already looking like a gong show. I agree, this looks like a epic fail in the making.