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Old 09-29-2019, 06:06 PM   #4361
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Considering he was born and raised in Calgary, was a Flames fan growing up, and even said that visiting Calgary as an opponent is super special and much moreso than Edmonton, I think the conclusion is that this is a dumb post.
He has talked about his great memory's of playing minor hockey in Calgary where he won a couple of championships but his home is in Ontario ever since he was 13, I would imagine he would rather stay close to "home" but he wouldn't say no to Calgary if the price is right either, you might get a slight discount from him just so he could stick it to the Oilers.
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Old 09-29-2019, 08:43 PM   #4362
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Gaudreau - Monahan - Tkachuk
Hall - Backlund - Lindholm
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:03 PM   #4363
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Lucic - Bennett - Virtanen
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Can Hall or Virtanen play defense, because Stone and Kylington can't.
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:23 PM   #4365
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Gaudreau - Monahan - Tkachuk
Hall - Backlund - Lindholm
Lucic - Bennett - Virtanen
Mangiapane - Ryan - Frolik
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Giordano - Andersson
Hanifin - Hamonic
Kylington - Stone

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Old 09-29-2019, 09:31 PM   #4366
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To me this is Tavares/Stone all over again especially if NJ struggles even with all the off-season stacking they’ve done. Do they get something for him like Stone which ended up costing Vegas much less than expected by most or do they potentially lose him for nothing like NYI lost Tavares??? It will be an interesting story line to follow and honestly NJ is a team I’m hoping struggles in hopes that Hall could be acquired.

Also it’s a deep draft and Dube is a highly coveted prospect add those with Brodie who is a top 4 D on every NHL team right now and a top 2 on some and I don’t see it being too far off. What if I changed the 2nd to a 1st and a 3rd?? Is that closer to you, does it become to much?

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Old 09-29-2019, 09:34 PM   #4367
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To me this is Tavares/Stone all over again especially if NJ struggles even with all the off-season stacking they’ve done. Do they get something for him like Stone which ended up costing Vegas much less than expected by most of do they potentially lose him for nothing like NYI lost Tavares??? It will be an interesting story line to follow and honestly NJ is a team I’m hoping struggles in hopes that Hall could be acquired.

Also it’s a deep draft and Dube is a highly coveted prospect add those with Brodie who is a top 4 D on every NHL team right now and a top 2 on some and I don’t see it being too far off. What if I changed the 2nd to a 1st and a 3rd?? Is that closer to you, does it become to much?

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Its not good for the Flames. If Hall wants to be here, sign him for a contract as a UFA next year. Calgary needs to restock the cupboards and keep Dube.

I am for a longer window and a decade of being in the mix. 1 year of Hall is just not worth it.
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:35 PM   #4368
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To me this is Tavares/Stone all over again especially if NJ struggles even with all the off-season stacking theyíve done. Do they get something for him like Stone which ended up costing Vegas much less than expected by most or do they potentially lose him for nothing like NYI lost Tavares??? It will be an interesting story line to follow and honestly NJ is a team Iím hoping struggles in hopes that Hall could be acquired.

Also itís a deep draft and Dube is a highly coveted prospect add those with Brodie who is a top 4 D on every NHL team right now and a top 2 on some and I donít see it being too far off. What if I changed the 2nd to a 1st and a 3rd?? Is that closer to you, does it become to much?

Brodie
Dube
1st
3rd

For

Hall

One of the problems is that they will need to have Brodie extended before they make that trade (or at least have Brodie agree on an extension with them). In no way would they trade Hall for a package containing a UFA unless that UFA is there for cap reasons.
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:44 PM   #4369
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To me this is Tavares/Stone all over again especially if NJ struggles even with all the off-season stacking they’ve done. Do they get something for him like Stone which ended up costing Vegas much less than expected by most or do they potentially lose him for nothing like NYI lost Tavares??? It will be an interesting story line to follow and honestly NJ is a team I’m hoping struggles in hopes that Hall could be acquired.

Also it’s a deep draft and Dube is a highly coveted prospect add those with Brodie who is a top 4 D on every NHL team right now and a top 2 on some and I don’t see it being too far off. What if I changed the 2nd to a 1st and a 3rd?? Is that closer to you, does it become to much?

Brodie
Dube
1st
3rd

For

Hall
Did Stone cost Vegas much less than anyone else thought? I thought many Flames fans were saying that the defense prospect Vegas included was equivalent to us including Valimaki.

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So you'd probably have to switch Brodie to Valimaki in your proposal and even then Jersey may go with another offer because of Valimaki now missing almost a year and half of critical development time

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Old 09-29-2019, 09:47 PM   #4370
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Id trade Johnny for hall (if we got him signed too)

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Old 09-29-2019, 10:12 PM   #4371
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Jesus, when he was an Oiler we referred to Hall as Captain Derp and now people are suggesting trading Gaudreau to get him? Sometimes this board really makes me shake my head....
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Jesus, when he was an Oiler we referred to Hall as Captain Derp and now people are suggesting trading Gaudreau to get him? Sometimes this board really makes me shake my head....
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Old 09-29-2019, 10:22 PM   #4373
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Has Hall ever mentioned the possibility of playing here? Said anything about the city?
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Old 09-29-2019, 10:26 PM   #4374
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Jesus, when he was an Oiler we referred to Hall as Captain Derp and now people are suggesting trading Gaudreau to get him? Sometimes this board really makes me shake my head....
Hart Trophy Derp?
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Old 09-29-2019, 10:36 PM   #4375
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There is a major difference between trading Gaudreau for Hall v. trading Gaudreau for a ton of assets and then signing Hall.

The first maneuver is idiotic, and the second maneuver is extremely risky and unlikely.

Either way, I just don't think the Flames can or should make the cap space to acquire Hall. The Flames might be able to add a top 6 winger, but there's almost no way they can afford a Hall-level player.

Why not sign Eric Haula if he's (eventually) healthy? He's a top 6 guy, probably wouldn't have a terrible contract, is decently young, and is a UFA this summer.
These types of options are more interesting to me.
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Old 09-29-2019, 10:38 PM   #4376
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Let's stay far away from Virtanen.
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Wow, I didn't think there was anyone who didn't know there's a huge difference between Oilers Hall and Devils Hall but judging by the thanks on dissentowner's post, I guess there's a lot.

I mean he didn't turn into Sidney Crosby but he still did a 180 and became a much better player, including a Hart trophy season. The Edmonton stink is real, how many examples do you guys need to see?
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Wow, I didn't think there was anyone who didn't know there's a huge difference between Oilers Hall and Devils Hall but judging by the thanks on dissentowner's post, I guess there's a lot.

I mean he didn't turn into Sidney Crosby but he still did a 180 and became a much better player, including a Hart trophy season. The Edmonton stink is real, how many examples do you guys need to see?
I didnít think it was a problem to change my opinion of a player who improved and left a team I hate. Weird.
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Old 09-30-2019, 09:31 AM   #4379
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Wow, I didn't think there was anyone who didn't know there's a huge difference between Oilers Hall and Devils Hall but judging by the thanks on dissentowner's post, I guess there's a lot.

I mean he didn't turn into Sidney Crosby but he still did a 180 and became a much better player, including a Hart trophy season. The Edmonton stink is real, how many examples do you guys need to see?
Trading for Hall is fine, trading Gaudreau for him is crazy. Gaudreau is younger, a better point producer and signed for longer at a reasonable price.
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