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Old 05-08-2019, 11:27 PM   #21
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I don't think this year's edition would have beat many of the AHL teams with their performance in this post season.

They would have been destroyed by SJ in round 2.
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Old 05-08-2019, 11:33 PM   #22
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I think the teams not built for the playoffs, not enough guys that are willing to sacrifice everything it takes to win. Scoring titles are nice but we need character guys that have no problem blocking shots or doing whatever it takes to win in post season.

I think if we did fare better against the Sharks the refs probably would have put a nail in the coffin!
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Old 05-08-2019, 11:40 PM   #23
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I was just thinking that for all the talk that has been about this year being an "easy" year to make it to the finals through the Western Conference, a road consisting of Colorado, San Jose and then St. Louis in the Conference finals does not feel any easier than any other year really. These are good teams, and both San Jose and St. Louis seem to be on a mission. To beat any of them, the Flames would have to be on a mission too, which we certainly weren't these playoffs.
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Old 05-08-2019, 11:46 PM   #24
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The question should really be if the Flames played the Sharks in round 1, would they have advanced? I would say certainly not based on what we have seen on the ice in this playoffs.
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Old 05-08-2019, 11:57 PM   #25
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They walked off a cliff in their compete level at the most important time of the year.

Don't know how you can take the division from SJ in their building then forget the things you did to do that two weeks later.

They have it in them clearly, but the GAF meter simply wasn't high enough. That said we seem to get a different team based on who they're playing. Maybe they would've actually got up for SJ? Maybe not. Who knows. I can't seem to get a read on this team and core and what makes them tick. It's a mystery.
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Old 05-09-2019, 12:01 AM   #26
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Flames would have been swept in four, which is not much worse than how they fared in round 1.

Well, I for one did feel a whole lot of positivity and happiness after that first win agains the Avs, where it looked like we could actually do this. It's not much in the grand scheme of things, but it sure beats being swept.
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Well, the point of the question is that a different Flames team showed up and beat Colorado. Or at least I think that's the point.
Well that's a strange question than. You'd have to define this different, fictional Flames team before it can be answered.

This years actual Flames team loses to SJ in 4 or 5.
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Old 05-09-2019, 01:13 AM   #28
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Well, the point of the question is that a different Flames team showed up and beat Colorado. Or at least I think that's the point.
Well then if that’s the case and we’re asking “what if the Flames showed up in the playoffs” then the answer is obviously yes they would beat San Jose and likely win the Stanley Cup given how Tampa fizzled out.

But unfortunately they didn’t show up so we’ll never know. I still say no though. Even if they managed to beat Colorado they wouldn’t have beat the Sharks. They just didn’t have it this year.
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Old 05-09-2019, 08:43 AM   #29
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Well then if that’s the case and we’re asking “what if the Flames showed up in the playoffs” then the answer is obviously yes they would beat San Jose and likely win the Stanley Cup given how Tampa fizzled out.

But unfortunately they didn’t show up so we’ll never know. I still say no though. Even if they managed to beat Colorado they wouldn’t have beat the Sharks. They just didn’t have it this year.
You never know though. I've seen some teams that looked bad in round one, but squeaked through and then dominated the rest of the way. I've seen teams that looked unstoppable in round one that then looked like they forgot to play in round two. And it was pretty incomprehensible as to why it happened.

The Flames in 1989 didn't look very good against Vancouver. But they got through due to Otto's skate and they sure looked great from then on.
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Old 05-09-2019, 09:05 AM   #30
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Flames sweep the Sharks. No question.
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Old 05-09-2019, 09:49 AM   #31
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I've lately been viewing Round 1 a lot like something GOT fans can relate to:



A mix of not taking teams seriously, and facing teams that were already in the groove led to an early exit from a lot of confident teams.

From Round 2 onwards you assume everyone there is 'feeling it', and depending on how your bracket looked... I think the 'better' team won 3/4 of their series'. It'll be interesting to see if this BOS/CAR series is a good one, or if Boston makes short work of them. CBJ gave them a good run in a few games there, and Carolina suddenly finds themselves the 'cold' team.

It'll be interesting to see if the 2019 Round 1 is a learning lesson... or as it seemed early: a reason for re-thinking things.
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Christ. Some people need to just let it go.
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Old 05-09-2019, 10:04 AM   #35
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I don't know how we even entertain the thought of a hypothetical win after getting crushed in 5 games. Maybe if we had lost a close battle in 7 we could ask the question. The 2019 Flames got run over by the mighty Avalanche. They'd beat no one.
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Old 05-09-2019, 10:06 AM   #36
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^ I think it's more on the assumption that this team didn't fulfill their potential.

If they had, how would they have fared against the Sharks?
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Well that's a strange question than. You'd have to define this different, fictional Flames team before it can be answered.

This years actual Flames team loses to SJ in 4 or 5.
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Well then if that’s the case and we’re asking “what if the Flames showed up in the playoffs” then the answer is obviously yes they would beat San Jose and likely win the Stanley Cup given how Tampa fizzled out.

But unfortunately they didn’t show up so we’ll never know. I still say no though. Even if they managed to beat Colorado they wouldn’t have beat the Sharks. They just didn’t have it this year.
I agree it's a strange question to ask. Don't know why the OP felt the need to create an alternate universe and then make predictions of outcomes there. Last thing we needed, in my opinion, is another thread to discuss how ####ty the Flames played.
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Old 05-09-2019, 10:47 AM   #38
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These playoffs are rigged regardless of how small the Flames have played in the past couple of playoffs. If the Flames played the Sharks in the first round, I think the Flames could've beaten the Sharks in 6 games. In round 2, Flames would've been gone in 5 - guaranteed.
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Old 05-09-2019, 10:50 AM   #39
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Sometimes the first round is the hardest or most unpredictable. After that, the better teams normally play to their capabilities?
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This year, the NHL has been filled with craziness and unfortunately the Flames were among them as the 4 division winners lost in the first round.

One of the 4 teams still standing were last in the standings on January 2nd.
What about the Sharks and Martin Jones and his putrid GAA in the season?
Avs had lost 18 out of 23 in one stretch.
Fleury gives up 4 goals in what 10 minutes?? Normally he gives that in a 2 week period!
Blake Fn Comeau was one of the most dynamic Stars players on game 7!
The jerks are in the final four but yet I wouldn't trade their roster against the Flames.

Yes it was sad to lose in 5 but watching the 82 games before that was entertaining as hell.

Maybe next year they'll just go through the motions in the regular season and then just rev it up in the p/o.

These are all NHL players who had to fight through numerous challenges to make it to the big league so I have a hard time to buy in to this "they don't have it in them"

ebbs and flows man, ebbs and flows.
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