Better Call Saul - New TV Series 2014

[nfotiu]

I don't see him dying, as it just doesn't seem where this is heading. Also, getting disappeared again would make this whole Gene arc pretty pointless. Prison forever seems anticlimactic. Not really sure what is left. I'm guessing Kim has a happier ending than Saul, and Saul is ok with that.

[PostandIn]

Interesting poster. The scale is off center and about to fall out of frame as if, at the next glance, it would be gone (which, of course, the show will be). The scale is out of balance (justice not being served). The base is incomplete, maybe indicating the crumbling legal system, society, or the BCS universe. The column is being dragged over by the weight of the heavier plate (the weight of Jimmy's transgressions). Like, the mechanism for determining good from evil is ruined. And, of course, the title of the episode has two meanings: "it's all gone" and "Saul is gone."

I have a more ominous view of what could happen to Jimmy and Kim. Peter Gould was quoted saying that Saul gets what he deserved, so really, he should end up on a trip to Belize like Walt, Mike, Gus, et al. He effectively caused the deaths of Chuck and Howard. Left Beneke quadriplegic, among other crimes and misdemeanors. Gilligan and Gould have been kind to few characters in the BB/BCS franchise.

And just because Kim confessed doesn't mean she shouldn't face consequences. It's only been the last couple of episodes that she's on track to redemption. Even then, it's not full redemption because she lied to Howard's wife in just the last episode, so the crime is ongoing for her regardless of her remorse. For most of this season, she's been morally worse than Jimmy.

Rhea Seehorn and Giancarlo Esposito have both mused online that this many months after production wrapped up they're still blown away by the ending. What would be the most satisfying is that Kim does something to save Jimmy's soul. She knows who she is and accepts it. Her character doesn't need anything further, sad as her existence is (yep, yep). All she can do is sacrifice at this stage. Jimmy, though, is still running from who he is. Who will we see at the end? At peace Jimmy or tormented Jimmy? Maybe dead Jimmy. It won't be Gene or Saul, given the brilliant bit of acting in the last scene with Marion.

The episode is about 70 minutes. Should be great.

[troutman]

Just noticed - when Saul looks at Marion’s computer, the reflection in his glasses is in color.

Odenkirk was asked to describe finale in three words: Hard Won Truth.

[troutman]

Marie with an amazing speech, and Saul with an incredible response.

[PostandIn]

Yep, Betsy Brandt rocked that.

[Yamer]

This is the first time I have watched BCS live with commercials in 3 or 4 years. My god is AMC insufferable.

[MegaErtz]

This is terrible.

[nfotiu]

Wow. That was a perfect ending.

[PostandIn]

Jimmy dies in prison, never to see Kim again. Sad. Fitting.

[Fuzz]

He realized he is better off in prison. A fitting conclusion.

Also, I love that they left it to the last episode to explain "Slippin' Jimmy".

[DownInFlames]

Kim’s bangs grew on me.

[White Out 403]

I can't believe how much I hate the last half of this season, and how much I hate that ending.

I don't even have the words right now.

[White Out 403]

Let me just get ahead of a bit of criticism I'm sure to face.

I think the ending was brilliantly written. The exit sign, the shared cigarette like season 1, it was all beautifully written and well done.

Here's my issue. Bob, Rhea, and Vince made me love Kim and Jimmy as a couple and I so wanted a happy ending for them. It's just that all the #### that happened in BB made that very difficult to happen with Jimmy still having soul. I get it.

Like, I get it. I do. I'm just left empty that Jimmy will live his days out in prison, while Kim gets ploughed by Yep guy.

[1_Flames_Fan]

Not finale related but:

Spoiler!

The recasting of the cab driver Jeffy really messed me up. Took awhile to figure out he was the same character from earlier seasons. Completely different tone from Jeffy #1 who was way more ominous and menacing. Jeffy #2 played him more like a bumbling fool. #2 wasn't bad or anything just wasn't what I was expecting.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Let me just get ahead of a bit of criticism I'm sure to face.

I think the ending was brilliantly written. The exit sign, the shared cigarette like season 1, it was all beautifully written and well done.

Here's my issue. Bob, Rhea, and Vince made me love Kim and Jimmy as a couple and I so wanted a happy ending for them. It's just that all the #### that happened in BB made that very difficult to happen with Jimmy still having soul. I get it.

Like, I get it. I do. I'm just left empty that Jimmy will live his days out in prison, while Kim gets ploughed by Yep guy.

Kim showed up in prison in her fitted, power lawyer clothes smoking a cigarette with jimmy. She’s done with the yep men, living her life and waiting for jimmy to get out.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

Kim showed up in prison in her fitted power lawyer clothes smoking a cigarette with jimmy. She’s done with the yep men, living her life and waiting for jimmy to get out.

86 years my dude. That's not happening.

[PostandIn]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

Kim showed up in prison in her fitted power lawyer clothes smoking a cigarette with jimmy. She’s done with the yep men, living her life and waiting for jimmy to get out.

Did you see that look over her shoulder as she was walking away? She’s not coming back. She had to dress the part to be credible as an attorney. Otherwise she wouldn’t have got in.

[mile]

Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan

Not finale related but:

Spoiler!

The recasting of the cab driver Jeffy really messed me up. Took awhile to figure out he was the same character from earlier seasons. Completely different tone from Jeffy #1 who was way more ominous and menacing. Jeffy #2 played him more like a bumbling fool. #2 wasn't bad or anything just wasn't what I was expecting.

With Jeff, I think it makes sense if you view it through the lens of Gene. At the start, he saw Jeff as this menacing threat who could blow up his cover, which fit the look of the actor they used at the time. But later on, the real Jeff is revealed to be nothing more than timid-looking man who is a harmless, former small-time criminal and no longer comes across as threatening to Gene.

As for the finale, that was a really great ending. I thought they nailed it, and I can't imagine it ending any other way after that honestly. It was realistic and the characters got what they deserved, but I thought the writers did right by them too. I'm sure it will be polarizing because it wasn't flashy, but I thought this was the only way this could all end. Hopefully it will grow to be more appreciated with time.

Loved all the callbacks to the first episode of the series and Jimmy and Kim's relationship ("It's showtime", Kim and Jimmy smoking against the wall, the finger guns at the end).

Bittersweet ending for Jimmy but he found some redemption and has some sort of relationship with Kim now, which is what he really wanted and missed for six years. She isn't going back to the yep guy, she's back in New Mexico.

Until Jimmy spoke at the trial, I was worried that he would continue to try and escape his sentence and remain completely selfish. I was very relieved after he changed his story in front of the judge.


Bringing Marie back was a big surprise, did not expect to see her at all.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by PostandIn

Did you see that look over her shoulder as she was walking away? She’s not coming back. She had to dress the part to be credible as an attorney. Otherwise she wouldn’t have got in.

this is my reading too.

it was her last visit with Jimmy who will die in prison.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

I'm getting ready to be disappointed Monday.

I predict Saul/Jimmy simply goes to prison and Kim marries her new loser boyfriend has a boring ####ty life.

End of series.

Game of Thrones level of disappointment for me incoming

I hate how right I was