03-05-2018, 11:42 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Pens are playing bad hockey right now plus the Flames like playing Pitts. We'll win this.
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03-05-2018, 11:46 AM
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#42
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by zamler
Pens are playing bad hockey right now plus the Flames like playing Pitts. We'll win this.
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Are they? They're 7-3 in their last 10 and their big 3 forwards have been rocketing up the scoring leaderboard. Plus their PP can singlehandedly win them games even when they don't show up, especially if we maintain our 5+ penalties per game of late.
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03-05-2018, 11:51 AM
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#43
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by Puppet Guy
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How did you come up with that projected forward lineup? All outlets, including the Calgary Sun & calgaryflames.com which you sourced have this projected lineup.
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FLAMES PROJECTED LINES
Johnny Gaudreau-Sean Monahan-Micheal Ferland
Matthew Tkachuk-Mikael Backlund-Michael Frolik
Sam Bennett-Mark Jankowski-Garnet Hathaway
Troy Brouwer-Matt Stajan-Curtis Lazar
DEFENCE PAIRINGS
Mark Giordano-Dougie Hamilton
TJ Brodie-Travis Hamonic
Brett Kulak-Michael Stone
GOALIES
Jon Gillies
David Rittich
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Last edited by Karl; 03-05-2018 at 11:53 AM.
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03-05-2018, 11:57 AM
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#44
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Kovaz
Are they? They're 7-3 in their last 10 and their big 3 forwards have been rocketing up the scoring leaderboard. Plus their PP can singlehandedly win them games even when they don't show up, especially if we maintain our 5+ penalties per game of late.
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I watched a few Pens games that last 2 weeks they don't look good. Didn't they lose 3 of their last 4? Their D is awful that they don't have an NHL caliber goaltender. Crosby is bad.
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03-05-2018, 11:59 AM
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#45
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First Line Centre
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I wouldn't care about missing the playoffs if the 1st was lottery protected. God that's terrifying.
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03-05-2018, 12:02 PM
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#46
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Originally Posted by DJones
I wouldn't care about missing the playoffs if the 1st was lottery protected. God that's terrifying.
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Based on where we'll likely finish, I think it is about a 1.5% chance. I tend not to think things with that low of a probability qualify as terrifying.
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03-05-2018, 12:03 PM
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#47
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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With current standings, the draft sim usually comes up with NYI at 10, Flames at 13. If that's as bad as it gets, that's livable.
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03-05-2018, 12:12 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Originally Posted by Bingo
Their playoff chances are pretty much hooped but a win tonight at least sets up the momentum to change that outlook in the short term.
If they sweep this road trip it's a different conversation depending on the out of town scores.
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Too bad they'd then have to eventually play games at home again after that.
This is going to get really ugly in a hurry for this franchise if that terrible trade results in the first round pick being a lot higher than 15th overall.
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03-05-2018, 12:21 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Originally Posted by Toonage
With current standings, the draft sim usually comes up with NYI at 10, Flames at 13. If that's as bad as it gets, that's livable.
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Liveable, sure. But considering the return Treliving got, this could go down as one of the worst trades of the last few seasons.
The Flames likely could address their pitiful forward depth with these picks still in hand. Without them, there is little to do but dish out costly FA contracts this summer and hope to hit a home run instead of foul tipping a bunt into their face with another Brouwer esque deal.
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03-05-2018, 12:25 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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At some point the Flames need to win 4 in a row, and the remainder of the games, win 2 for every one loss.
Of course assuming that some of those wins aren’t 3 pointers against their closest teams in standings.
So a mini streak at some point to get the ship back on track then carry that momentum through some tight games that are going to be extremely nerve wracking. Somehow pulling out a win tonight gives them confidence against a good team which can carry them through the other 2 road games, and gets one day and game closer to Smith back.
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03-05-2018, 12:28 PM
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#51
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus
Liveable, sure. But considering the return Treliving got, this could go down as one of the worst trades of the last few seasons.
The Flames likely could address their pitiful forward depth with these picks still in hand. Without them, there is little to do but dish out costly FA contracts this summer and hope to hit a home run instead of foul tipping a bunt into their face with another Brouwer esque deal.
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The likelihood those picks would instantly address our depth is about as likely that the pick wins the lottery if we miss.
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03-05-2018, 12:30 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
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Go Flames go!
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03-05-2018, 12:38 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
The likelihood those picks would instantly address our depth is about as likely that the pick wins the lottery if we miss.
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The team has been mismanaged into this quandary where they shouldn't be trading away their decent prospects but now need to do so in order to plug holes that are preventing them from progressing. The likelihood of those jettisoned picks making the Flames a more viable trade partner to address these depth issues than they are now is clearly extremely high.
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03-05-2018, 12:39 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by DJones
I wouldn't care about missing the playoffs if the 1st was lottery protected. God that's terrifying.
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I'd still care about missing the playoffs. That is bad enough on it's own.
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03-05-2018, 12:41 PM
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#55
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus
The likelihood of those picks making the Flames a more viable trade partner to address depth issues than they are now is extremely high.
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Is that true? Does Hamonic hold less value than the picks that were traded to get him? Players can be traded, too.
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03-05-2018, 12:44 PM
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#56
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Calgary
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The meltdown is upon us.
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03-05-2018, 12:46 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by MikePatton
Is that true? Does Hamonic hold less value than the picks that were traded to get him? Players can be traded, too.
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Well it's hard to say but I imagine the Flames put Hamonic on the block at the draft they may get a 1st round pick but not likely the 2nd round picks back. The reason the guy was available for trade for so long was because the asking price was high and teams didn't want to pay up until the Flames moved in. I don't think Hamonic has been bad but I also think there are few teams that are going to look at his season with the Flames and feel he's worth close to that price. The Islanders didn't really miss him that much and the Flames didn't get better and when you trade a 1st round pick and two 2nd round picks I would think you are looking to get a difference maker in return.
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03-05-2018, 12:48 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Well it's hard to say but I imagine the Flames put Hamonic on the block at the draft they may get a 1st round pick but not likely the 2nd round picks back. The reason the guy was available for trade for so long was because the asking price was high and teams didn't want to pay up until the Flames moved in. I don't think Hamonic has been bad but I also think there are few teams that are going to look at his season with the Flames and feel he's worth close to that price. The Islanders didn't really miss him that much and the Flames didn't get better and when you trade a 1st round pick and two 2nd round picks I would think you are looking to get a difference maker in return.
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Plus now he has just two years left on that contract after this. His value certainly isn't increasing.
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03-05-2018, 12:48 PM
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#59
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Originally Posted by MikePatton
Is that true? Does Hamonic hold less value than the picks that were traded to get him? Players can be traded, too.
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Based on the season he and Brodie are having I don't think it can be argued that Stone would have done any worse in that role and would have also left the door open for both Kulak and Andersson to play more of a role on the team from the get go this year. The team would also have a highly valuable trade chip in hand to address these costly forward depth issues.
For whatever that's worth it would have been my order of operations anyway.
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03-05-2018, 12:48 PM
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#60
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#1 Goaltender
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The only dman on the flames that is gonna get the return Hamonic got is Hamilton and maybe Gio.
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