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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube
Agreed -- and plot holes all over the place.
I thought the original reboot was a fine movie, entertaining, fun, engaging. It wasn't perfect, but decent. Into Darkness was a pretty big misstep though. The problem with the Abrams movies both times was the writing. The special effects, casting, acting, and directing were all pretty good -- it's just the stories and plot holes that have been a disaster. Brought in new writers for this one so hopefully the story is good. Not really much indication from that trailer other than... Enterprise crashes on an alien planet, crew get separated, lots of space adventure with alien companions. Which already sounds more promising than Into Darkness.
People always seem to have such weirdly high expectations for Star Trek movies though. There's more bad ones than good ones, even among the revered originals. I'd rather watch that trailer over and over than the mind numbing boredom of The Motion Picture or complete awfulness of Final Frontier or Nemesis. At the very least, I'm sure it will be an entertaining sci-fi action adventure, which is all I ask for from Trek films. I hope for thought-provoking, philosophical, character-driven stuff from the upcoming television series.
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It seems to follow the rule with the exception of TOS wihich started meh, got strong and then falted before recovering. With TNg it started meh, recovered slightly and then fell over the edge of a waterfall with everyone screaming as the plunge to their deaths of the sharp rocks below. The first reboot was pretty well done, the sequel was uninspiring and terrible.
Star Trek - I didn't think it was terrible, but it was too colorless and too umm thought provoking. It was awesome to see the Enterprise in all its glory again
Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan - I would argue that this was the best Trek movie ever made, period. RM chewed up the scenery with a vengeance, the actors for the most part were awesome, and they had the whole tight camaraderie down to a tee. Kirstie Alley did an awesome job as Savak.
Star Trek III - The search for Spock - A very strong story because of the acting, Christopher Lloyd was the epitome of a Klingon, and stories about his preperation for the role are awesome. While the movie wasn't as strong as TWOK it was a pretty good entry.
Star Trek IV - The Voyage Home - The first movie where you didn't really have Spock in it, until the end. But the dialogue and humor were top notch in it. A movie without the Enterprise in it was strange.
Star Trek V - The first misstep in the franchise and directed by Shats enormous ego, and it showed as McCoy and Spocks characters were somewhat wrecked in this movie, and we had the horrible fan dance scene with Uhura, Scotty bonging his head on a I-Beam. The Villain was god, the other villain was Sybok and the third villian was this terrible cardboard cut out with Klingon hair. Even the effects were sub par
Star Trek 6 - The undiscovered country - This is my second favorite Trek Movie. Designed to follow modern day events with the fall of the Berlin Wall and the threatened dissolving of the Soviet Empire. The acting was exceptional and the plot was really good, Christopher Plummer was bought in as an exceptional foil for Shatner as a Shakespeare ranting conspirator. Kim Cattrell put in a strong performance in a role that was originally supposed to be Savak betrays the Federation. The last scene of the Enterprise flying into the son with a tear jerking final captains log followed by autographed credits was exceptionally well done
Ok here we go
Star Trek 7 - Generations - Awful movie that completely wrecked the Borg. Malcolm McDowell was a workable villain, but they frankly took a justifiable villain, and made him a monster.. But this started the shift of TNG from an ensemble cast to the Data and Picard show with everyone else pushing buttons. The Klingon Villains were there to chortle and act like mustachioed boogey men. The hole movie fell flat to me. I wanted to see Data Disintegrated because of that stupid emotion chip.
Star Trek 8 - First Contact - It wasn't a terrible movie but it wasn't great. It started the #######ization of the Borg from a truly awesome concept of a complete hive mind, to something controlled by a queen who was deeply flawed. Alice Krige did a pretty good job as a villain, and even managed to make herself look like a seductress. Some of the time travel concepts were cool. Worf was awful in this movie, Beverly and Troi really had nothing to do, Geordi was in the background. In the end we got a biceps bulging action hero Picard, and Data as the main action hero characters.
Star Trek 9 - Insurrection - Truly truly awful movie. This completely cemented that Worf was now an unfunny comedy character with a zit. Rikers face was as smooth as a babies a$$. The villains were into plastic surgery. The plot was contrived, and the Enterprise could be flown by an emergency joystick. Nothing can top this level of craptitude.
Star Trek 10 - Nemisis - Wait, I was wrong. This was a completely foul piece of garbage. Here we have Picard four wheel driving. They didn't have enough Data so they had to add another developmentally disable Data. Wait where's the flying Data, and the disco on the off duty Data. All other characters were completely forgotten, except for Worf who's so dispondant at his lot in life that he gets plastered at a wedding for Troi and Riker. On top of that Wesley returns from the Phantom Zone to attend the wedding and is now back in Star Fleet even though he betrayed it years ago. The only thing that we had missing was Riker following Picard around going "Snarf Snarf". Tom Hardy was a great actor and he couldn't save this thing. From the really awful hair touching scenes to the mental raping of Troi for no other reason then . . . well he's stupid. On top of that the massive death spewing super ship has an unshielded exhaust port on the fricken bridge. Do the Romulons or Remans not have a health and safety guy.
"Hey fellas, you know that super deadly radiation that this ship shoots, well there's an exposed conduit of it right here on the bridge, maybe we should put a sign on it so people don't start lighting their cigarettes with it.
I remember Trekkies bragging that this movie was directed by the guy who wrote Gladiator. Well its clear that he was a writer not a director.
So bad
Star Trek 11 - 90201 - I liked this movie because the actors playing Spock and McCoy channeled their performances. I wasn't a fan of Kirk, but I don't think that we were ment to like the arrogant #######. The villain was cardboardy and his plan made no sense. Instead of using the red matter to collapse the star that would destory Romulus he goes on a galaxy spanning campaign of Genocide. After sitting around for about 20 years playing scrabble with his crew while waiting for Spock to pop up. This wasn't a bad movie, and Ben Cross did a stunning job as Sarak. I think that nostelgia over came a lot of plot points that we were willing to ignore.
Star Trek 12 - Into Darkness - I thought this was a weak movie with a lot of plot confusion. You can't have a mega villain like Khan because no actor is going to be able to surpass the original. They got way too into the habit of the TNG movies where it because the Spock and Kirk show with everyone else running around in the background. The secondary villain was kind of Just not a great entry.
