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Sofa GM · 08-22-2022, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

"You want Kane? - then give us Holloway, Broberg and your 2023 1st"

"You want us to take $5M in salary back? - add your 2024 1st"

I suggested that and was eaten alive....... and then was again destroyed for suggesting AZ might want a 1st or Holloway/Broberg since they would have leverage.

Vinny01 · 08-22-2022, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

"You want Kane? - then give us Holloway, Broberg and your 2023 1st"

"You want us to take $5M in salary back? - add your 2024 1st"

Do rentals ever return that type of package?

The laughable offers from the Oilers like Puljujarvi, Barrie and a pick won’t work but I am not sure a 2019, 2020, 2023, and 2024 1st for one season of a player makes sense either

Sofa GM · 08-22-2022, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

Do rentals ever return that type of package?

The laughable offers from the Oilers like Puljujarvi, Barrie and a pick won’t work but I am not sure a 2019, 2020, 2023, and 2024 1st for one season of a player makes sense either

For them to retain 50% if would have to be a haul, that's the leverage.

midniteowl · 08-22-2022, 03:59 PM

Oh, it'll make sense to their fans. Didn't they say they were barely beaten by the Avs, and they would've beaten the Bolts if they have gotten pass the Avs? They are thinking they are one Patrick Kane away from wining it all and 2023 1st would be a 32nd pick and they are going to resign P Kane because after wining it with McDrai, P Kane will be just in awe and wants to resign right away to win more, so the 2024 1st would be just another 32nd pick.

Vinny01 · 08-22-2022, 04:16 PM

I just don’t see why Patrick Kane would waive for the Oilers when teams like the Rangers will also be interested?

midniteowl · 08-22-2022, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

I just don’t see why Patrick Kane would waive for the Oilers when teams like the Rangers will also be interested?

I don't either, but Oilers fans, you know.

Enoch Root · 08-22-2022, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

Do rentals ever return that type of package?

The laughable offers from the Oilers like Puljujarvi, Barrie and a pick won’t work but I am not sure a 2019, 2020, 2023, and 2024 1st for one season of a player makes sense either

Let's look at it in reverse...

Would we do Valimaki and Lucic and a 1st for Kane? Obviously, we wouldn't be able to sign fast enough. That means the price is way off.

Would you do Coronato, Wolf, Lucic and a 1st for Kane 50% retained and him agreeing to a 3x$5 extension? As painful as that price sounds, I think most would say yes after thinking about it, which means that is at least in the ballpark of the price.

Sofa GM · 08-22-2022, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Let's look at it in reverse...

Would we do Valimaki and Lucic and a 1st for Kane? Obviously, we wouldn't be able to sign fast enough. That means the price is way off.

Would you do Coronato, Wolf, Lucic and a 1st for Kane 50% retained and him agreeing to a 3x$5 extension? As painful as that price sounds, I think most would say yes after thinking about it, which means that is at least in the ballpark of the price.

100% agree to that deal if he signs that extension, he could do better than that though. Guessing he could sign a 3-4 yr deal at $8MM per year

Enoch Root · 08-22-2022, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa GM

100% agree to that deal if he signs that extension, he could do better than that though. Guessing he could sign a 3-4 yr deal at $8MM per year

Probably.

But the point was that the return should be 3 primary assets, not 2 dumps and a late 1st

topfiverecords · 08-22-2022, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by midniteowl

Oilers getting Kessel? I thought they are getting Patrick Kane.

They’re getting both. As soon as they convince someone else to go on LTIR and someone else to retire.

Sofa GM · 08-22-2022, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Probably.

But the point was that the return should be 3 primary assets, not 2 dumps and a late 1st

100% correct, and let’s be honest….. it’s irrelevant because he isn’t waiving to go to Edmonton. Waive to go to Tampa, or NYR, or even Colorado. But no chance he agrees to play in Edmonton

Oil Stain · 08-22-2022, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Is it really though?

They don't watch games when the Oilers aren't in them, and when they are, they don't really watch how the other team plays. They just look around for McDavid and follow him as he does his wind up toy thing at their own blue line.

Last season Kadri played 28 seconds per game on the PK. Most of his career by a significant margin.

He averaged 4 seconds on the PK in the playoffs.

Kadri isn't a PKer.

This stuff is pretty easy to verify.

topfiverecords · 08-22-2022, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Last season Kadri played 28 seconds per game on the PK. Most of his career by a significant margin.

He averaged 4 seconds on the PK in the playoffs.

Kadri isn't a PKer.

This stuff is pretty easy to verify.

So you watched all of his games with a stopwatch and a log? Or you just looked that up?

blankall · 08-22-2022, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Let's look at it in reverse...

Would we do Valimaki and Lucic and a 1st for Kane? Obviously, we wouldn't be able to sign fast enough. That means the price is way off.

Would you do Coronato, Wolf, Lucic and a 1st for Kane 50% retained and him agreeing to a 3x$5 extension? As painful as that price sounds, I think most would say yes after thinking about it, which means that is at least in the ballpark of the price.

Why would P. Kane sign that kind of extension. He had 92 points last year. He's either looking for a $8 x 3 type of contract or a retirement contract at 6-7 years.

Jacks · 08-22-2022, 05:32 PM

Alright, who left the seat up again?

Jay Random · 08-22-2022, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacks

Alright, who left the seat up again?

Must have been Draisaitl. He's always pissy.

djsFlames · 08-22-2022, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

I just don’t see why Patrick Kane would waive for the Oilers when teams like the Rangers will also be interested?

Just refer to the fan fiction script they drew up...

(Jesus christ do they just sit on their hands and wait for the hockey season in the summer up there?)

djsFlames · 08-22-2022, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Kane at 50% retained is probably the most valuable asset in the NHL that is actually available right now. If you want him, it's going to cost 3 assets that the Hawks want, not 2 player dumps and a late 1st.

This is where you're wrong - It'll be an early first.

Jay Random · 08-22-2022, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by djsFlames

(Jesus christ do they just sit on their hands and wait for the hockey season in the summer up there?)

The Eskimos Elks are 3-7 so far and haven't won a home game, so yeah, pretty much. There are really only four things to do in Edmonton in August:

1. Dream of the glory days of their hockey team.
2. Dream of the glory days of their football team.
3. Swat mosquitoes.
4. Play ‘Name That Smell’.

topfiverecords · 08-22-2022, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Random

The Eskimos Elks are 3-7 so far and haven't won a home game, so yeah, pretty much. There are really only four things to do in Edmonton in August:

1. Dream of the glory days of their hockey team.
2. Dream of the glory days of their football team.
3. Swat mosquitoes.
4. Play ‘Name That Smell’.

5. Go to the clinic to get some cream prescribed for that rash you got at the West Ed waterpark.