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Old 05-27-2022, 01:40 AM   #41
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Remember this one that was called a good goal AGAINST the Flames?

https://youtu.be/PpHUZfU4-b4
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Old 05-27-2022, 01:41 AM   #42
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25 year season ticker holder. Dealt with the 04 screw, maybe because i was too green to know better. Not this time. F*** Y** NHL.
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Old 05-27-2022, 01:43 AM   #43
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####ing disgusting. Flames ####ing screwed.
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Old 05-27-2022, 01:43 AM   #44
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The rule should be changed to not even directing the puck is allowed, the only skate goal that should be allowed is if it accidentally hits a skate and goes in
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Old 05-27-2022, 01:44 AM   #45
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The rule should be changed to not even directing the puck is allowed, the only skate goal that should be allowed is if it accidentally hits a skate and goes in
They did that. Was called the Brett Hull rule. They f***ed that up too
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Old 05-27-2022, 01:46 AM   #46
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25 year season ticker holder. Dealt with the 04 screw, maybe because i was too green to know better. Not this time. F*** Y** NHL.
Agree. Me too.
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Old 05-27-2022, 01:59 AM   #47
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Unless you throw the puck in the net or it goes in with a high stick it should count. I watched about 10 different good goals that were directed in with a skate and I can’t tell the difference anymore on what is and isn’t a goal. Make it simple.
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Old 05-27-2022, 02:07 AM   #48
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25 year season ticker holder. Dealt with the 04 screw, maybe because i was too green to know better. Not this time. F*** Y** NHL.
tell the Flames...they need to not let this go
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Old 05-27-2022, 02:16 AM   #49
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tell the Flames...they need to not let this go
Oh i will. Not the Flames, but the NHL, not another dollar from me. I can take losing, when its on the up and up.
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Gonna put this here too

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Not gonna make excuses, the flames should have never been in this do or die tonight, but looking at the evidence below it seems like the NHL would rather have "star players" against each other, rather then being honest to the sport.

Good Regular Season Goals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II22ThxJVN4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvSktBJy7oM&t=384s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLAC9UOhAOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV7AWS52C_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax2HNQcKApY


No Good Playoff Goals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upDmq_Yc6s0
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I wonder if Oiler fans were as upset about this goal counting.


Different year but NHL does not care about what the rules are they will make things up unfortunately.
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I think there should be no judgement call on things like this. Either all goals redirected off a skate are good or they are all disallowed
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Old 05-27-2022, 06:56 AM   #53
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The way the rule is worded, the fact the puck is likely to go into the net on its own doesn’t matter IMO.

The rule is whether the puck is propelled into the net using a “distinct kicking motion”. And that using the skate to propel the puck into the net WITHOUT using a “distinct kicking motion” is legal.

So what is a “distinct” kicking motion? Distinct means everyone knows it when they see it. Because people know what it means to kick a puck into the net. So even if you accept that Coleman purposely slid his skate towards the puck (which he admittedly did), that is not a “distinct” kicking motion.

Anyone who says otherwise is ignoring the replays of all the other goals that have been allowed where there is a much clearer kicking motion. The NHL simply got it wrong, either due to incompetence or something else entirely.
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Old 05-27-2022, 07:01 AM   #54
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When the post game was all about "the league absolutely needs McBaby in the WCF", I knew it wasn't going to make any difference what the Flames did.

Did anyone hear who initiated the review? I didn't.

Thanks for posting other kicked in goals. I appreciate seeing the NHL's stupidity.
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Old 05-27-2022, 07:09 AM   #55
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tell the Flames...they need to not let this go
I imagine the league will respond to the Flames in a similar way:
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Old 05-27-2022, 07:12 AM   #56
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Definitely an absolutely garbage call. The Flames got screwed on this one and I don't think there is any denying it. All these example of goals that counted are definitive evidence of it.
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Old 05-27-2022, 07:16 AM   #57
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time for the Flames to consider giving an 8 year, $11MM deal to the refs and NHL front office brass. Need to fix it in favour of Calgary not have it fixed against Calgary.

That would be money better spent.

League's rigged.
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Old 05-27-2022, 07:17 AM   #58
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Watching the post-game interviews with players, it's hard not to actually laugh a bit at how players in the NHL are so restricted from saying anything critical/negative about the league. It's so silly and ridiculous. Everyone biting their tongues despite clearly knowing what the reality of the play was.
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When the post game was all about "the league absolutely needs McBaby in the WCF", I knew it wasn't going to make any difference what the Flames did.

Did anyone hear who initiated the review? I didn't.

Thanks for posting other kicked in goals. I appreciate seeing the NHL's stupidity.
Toronto initiated the review. A guy in the control room was losing his bet.

The NHL is all about gambling these days. Their greatest player in history said so.
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Unless you throw the puck in the net or it goes in with a high stick it should count. I watched about 10 different good goals that were directed in with a skate and I can’t tell the difference anymore on what is and isn’t a goal. Make it simple.
There are two rules I would like to see changed ASAP. The first being kicking the puck into the net. If they get the puck in the net it is a goal. The second being hand passes outside the defensive zone. It is stupid that hand passes are blown down outside the defensive and I don't understand the logic behind allowing it in one situation but not another.
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