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Old 10-15-2019, 11:59 AM   #441
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You can basically choose to ignore the politics involved, or not. It's a great phone otherwise
I'm mostly concerned about the Google updates and such, the politics aside. Just want to make sure that I can continue to do my day to day business without any issues.
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Old 10-15-2019, 12:02 PM   #442
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Not sure I 100% agree this is Googles model, I mean Apple really owns it AFAIC.
It was a little underwhelming though..
That's the thing. Google is trying to use the Apple model, but they don't have the same collection rabid fanboys who will run out and buy their hardware every year. Particularly given the choice consumers have in the Android ecosystem.

You could do better for the same price with Samsung, or better for much cheaper with OnePlus. It's bizarre that they don't really see that.
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Old 10-15-2019, 12:02 PM   #443
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I'm mostly concerned about the Google updates and such, the politics aside. Just want to make sure that I can continue to do my day to day business without any issues.
I believe as it stands right now the US ban doesn't affect current phones already released, just ones coming out in the future like the Mate30
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Old 10-15-2019, 12:04 PM   #444
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You could do better for the same price with Samsung, or better for much cheaper with OnePlus. It's bizarre that they don't really see that.
Samsungs are getting more and more expensive plus come loaded with bloatware. The OnePlus has definitely given me a pause on my planned pixel 4 purchase though
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Old 10-15-2019, 12:14 PM   #445
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My wife needs a new phone, sub $500. On the smaller side, too, none of these 6" + monsters. I was waiting to see if Goolge would provide anything, I guess not. Any recommendations? She currently has a Oneplus X.
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Old 10-15-2019, 12:19 PM   #446
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Samsungs are getting more and more expensive plus come loaded with bloatware. The OnePlus has definitely given me a pause on my planned pixel 4 purchase though
Good point on the bloat.

And FWIW, I've got a OP6, and recommend it. It's a solid phone.
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My wife needs a new phone, sub $500. On the smaller side, too, none of these 6" + monsters. I was waiting to see if Goolge would provide anything, I guess not. Any recommendations? She currently has a Oneplus X.

Pixel 3 is $599 right now, 3a is $549, both excellent choices.
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Ya, was looking at the 3a as an option. No headphone jack is annoying and was hoping for a bigger price drop! Some of the Motorola's look OK for around $300.
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If she is not a heavy user than Motorola, Zenphone, One+ are all good choices. Even the cheaper Samsungs are pretty good, the A line I believe. Used is not a terrible way to go either. Essential PH-1 is decent and can be found cheap.
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I don't think she wants used, as she holds on to them for awhile, so updates are important. Derfintyl not Samsung, would like to stick as close to stock as possible. She mostly uses it for music and photos when we travel(though I have an SLR, so doesn't need the best). No gaming, not much video. I'll take a look at the Zenphone.
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I don't think she wants used, as she holds on to them for awhile, so updates are important. Derfintyl not Samsung, would like to stick as close to stock as possible. She mostly uses it for music and photos when we travel(though I have an SLR, so doesn't need the best). No gaming, not much video. I'll take a look at the Zenphone.

Pixel is best for photos, and no headphone jack isnt a biggie. Get her some wireless earbuds.
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Ya, was looking at the 3a as an option. No headphone jack is annoying and was hoping for a bigger price drop! Some of the Motorola's look OK for around $300.
American Thanksgiving is less than a month away. Might get a better deal then. Knowing Google, probably on a Pixel 4.
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My only pause on the Pixel 4 is the battery size. Unbelievable that they have made it a smaller battery on the regular 4.

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Does anyone know how to keep an app like Google Pay or Passes in front of the lock screen? Digital pink slips are now legal in Alberta and I can't seem to figure out how to keep them in front of the lock screen so the screen can just be turned on to display the pink slip and not actually have to unlock the phone and open the app.

For that matter, I don't think google pay can even store pink slips. Not ATM anyways.

Passes works well but would be nice to keep all that stuff in one place.
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Old 10-16-2019, 05:48 PM   #455
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I believe as it stands right now the US ban doesn't affect current phones already released, just ones coming out in the future like the Mate30
Not correct. There is no ban at all on any Huawei phones, now or future. Trump lifted that a while ago. I have a Mate 20 Pro, best phone I have ever had easily. Huawei makes great phones.
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Not correct. There is no ban at all on any Huawei phones, now or future. Trump lifted that a while ago. I have a Mate 20 Pro, best phone I have ever had easily. Huawei makes great phones.
Yeah it's still not in effect he keeps extending grace periods. That's why the concern is over future devices

It's not a ban on the phones but the worry is Google will stop supporting them. You're right, they are great phones
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Decided to keep the P30. Really like it so far.
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Old 10-17-2019, 08:41 AM   #458
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Not correct. There is no ban at all on any Huawei phones, now or future. Trump lifted that a while ago. I have a Mate 20 Pro, best phone I have ever had easily. Huawei makes great phones.

At this point I'd have a hard time giving a company money when they're a known arm of the Chinese government. Everyone talks about how terrible their treatment of the Uyghur's and Hong Kong is, but until we stop giving them money nothing will change
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One thing I'm genuinely excited about is active display changes in the camera -- so if you change the iso or shutter speed, you'll see the effects in the camera screen before you snap the picture and view the end result, eliminating guessing and making the pro camera actually usable.

That, the 90hz refresh rate, and all OS updates as they're rolled out might be enough to make this my next phone.
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At this point I'd have a hard time giving a company money when they're a known arm of the Chinese government. Everyone talks about how terrible their treatment of the Uyghur's and Hong Kong is, but until we stop giving them money nothing will change
Not this bs again....Please give proof that Huawei is a known arm of the Chinese government instead of believing the absolute bs the Trump regime feeds you. Can I interest you in a subscription to the National Enquirer too?
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