Is it good in the long term when the team wins a contract negotiation by such a large margin? I can't imagine that Bennett (and/or his Agent) will be willing to give a Calgary discount when Bennett gets some leverage.
Bennett has definitely not been treated like other top-6 draft picks.
He had somewhat comparable start to Elias Lindholm.. Lindholm has gotten top-6 linemates for his whole career. His bridge deal was 2X2.7
Tkachuk is a great player. He has been treated like a future core player and given the cover of playing with Backlund and Frolik.
Monahan is a good player. The moment he put on a Flames uniform the Flames have done everything to make him into a #1C. He got to play with Hudler and Colborne as a rookie and then with Hudler and Gaudreau.
Bennett has a solid rookie year playing with Backlund and Frolik (18-18-36) and then gets moved out of the top-6 to make room for Tkachuk (13-35-48)
Bennett get Brouwer, Versteeg and Chaisson to look after. It can be argued that playing with Bennett extended Versteeg's career... He was on a PTO with Edmonton before he got to play with Bennett and now has another contract.
If the Flames were to want to ease the upcoming contract crunch with Tkachuk they could move him onto a line with Jankowski/Versteeg/Brouwer. That would basically guarantee a sophomore slump (at least point scoring wise... which drives the $$)
Will Bennett's treatment end up with him on the Canucks or some other team where they would make him a #1C or at least a #2C?
Asking him to go out and be a 40 pts #3C is not a reasonably attainable goal...
Is it good in the long term when the team wins a contract negotiation by such a large margin? I can't imagine that Bennett (and/or his Agent) will be willing to give a Calgary discount when Bennett gets some leverage.
Bennett has definitely not been treated like other top-6 draft picks.
He had somewhat comparable start to Elias Lindholm.. Lindholm has gotten top-6 linemates for his whole career. His bridge deal was 2X2.7
Tkachuk is a great player. He has been treated like a future core player and given the cover of playing with Backlund and Frolik.
Monahan is a good player. The moment he put on a Flames uniform the Flames have done everything to make him into a #1C. He got to play with Hudler and Colborne as a rookie and then with Hudler and Gaudreau.
Bennett has a solid rookie year playing with Backlund and Frolik (18-18-36) and then gets moved out of the top-6 to make room for Tkachuk (13-35-48)
Bennett get Brouwer, Versteeg and Chaisson to look after. It can be argued that playing with Bennett extended Versteeg's career... He was on a PTO with Edmonton before he got to play with Bennett and now has another contract.
If the Flames were to want to ease the upcoming contract crunch with Tkachuk they could move him onto a line with Jankowski/Versteeg/Brouwer. That would basically guarantee a sophomore slump (at least point scoring wise... which drives the $$)
Will Bennett's treatment end up with him on the Canucks or some other team where they would make him a #1C or at least a #2C?
Asking him to go out and be a 40 pts #3C is not a reasonably attainable goal...
I think Bennett's opportunities are completely on him. If he takes the next step forward and starts driving the play, maturing by keeping puck possession, and getting his scoring rates up...then you will see adjustments from the coaching staff where he will be put in a more offensive role and see more ice-time on the powerplay to capitalize.
I understand it's tough to do with with Brouwer and Chaisson, but that is why I think it's a good idea for the Flames to sign Jagr.
Is it good in the long term when the team wins a contract negotiation by such a large margin? I can't imagine that Bennett (and/or his Agent) will be willing to give a Calgary discount when Bennett gets some leverage.
Bennett has definitely not been treated like other top-6 draft picks.
He had somewhat comparable start to Elias Lindholm.. Lindholm has gotten top-6 linemates for his whole career. His bridge deal was 2X2.7
Tkachuk is a great player. He has been treated like a future core player and given the cover of playing with Backlund and Frolik.
Monahan is a good player. The moment he put on a Flames uniform the Flames have done everything to make him into a #1C. He got to play with Hudler and Colborne as a rookie and then with Hudler and Gaudreau.
Bennett has a solid rookie year playing with Backlund and Frolik (18-18-36) and then gets moved out of the top-6 to make room for Tkachuk (13-35-48)
Bennett get Brouwer, Versteeg and Chaisson to look after. It can be argued that playing with Bennett extended Versteeg's career... He was on a PTO with Edmonton before he got to play with Bennett and now has another contract.
If the Flames were to want to ease the upcoming contract crunch with Tkachuk they could move him onto a line with Jankowski/Versteeg/Brouwer. That would basically guarantee a sophomore slump (at least point scoring wise... which drives the $$)
Will Bennett's treatment end up with him on the Canucks or some other team where they would make him a #1C or at least a #2C?
Asking him to go out and be a 40 pts #3C is not a reasonably attainable goal...
I think Bennett's opportunities are completely on him. If he takes the next step forward and starts driving the play, maturing by keeping puck possession, and getting his scoring rates up...then you will see adjustments from the coaching staff where he will be put in a more offensive role and see more ice-time on the powerplay to capitalize.
I understand it's tough to do with with Brouwer and Chaisson, but that is why I think it's a good idea for the Flames to sign Jagr.
signing Jagr may be good for the Flames but it would cut down Bennett's PP time and leave him with Ferland and Versteeg as line mates instead of Versteeg and Lazar/Brouwer
If the Flames were to want to ease the upcoming contract crunch with Tkachuk they could move him onto a line with Jankowski/Versteeg/Brouwer. That would basically guarantee a sophomore slump (at least point scoring wise... which drives the $$)
I would take this a step further. Healthy scratch him all season long to further reduce his value.
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signing Jagr may be good for the Flames but it would cut down Bennett's PP time and leave him with Ferland and Versteeg as line mates instead of Versteeg and Lazar/Brouwer
Wow that's a lot of assumptions you make in one post. Kind of highlights your lack of open-mindedness on the roster.
Just because we sign Jagr doesn't mean he necessarily has to play with Gaudreau-Monahan. I'd almost rather have Jagr with Tkachuk-Bennett to try and create another really good scoring line. Why put all your eggs in one basket when you can create three great lines?
Bennett doesn't necessarily have to play with Versteeg, Lazar or Brouwer. Although I do like the idea of a Tkachuk-Bennett-Brouwer line. I mean your suggestion is viable but its not the only way to construct the lines. Personally I think if you want to maximize all three of your top lines that you give Bennett at least one more high skill player in Tkachuk or Jagr or whoever. I think Tkachuk-Bennett in particular could develop into as dangerous an offensive duo as Gaudreau-Monahan eventually (not necessarily right away) and give us three fantastic lines. You could have Jankowski work his way in as a LW with Backlund-Frolik just like Tkachuk did.
Heck we don't even know if Bennett will stay at centre. Certainly it seems likely. But if Jankowski outperforms Bennett we could see Janko at 3rd line centre and Bennett could re-join Backlund-Frolik where he arguably had his best offensive stretch of his NHL career.
Use a little imagination Ricardo. We all know you can't though because you see TOI as the determining statistic for most things. But overall I think you're assuming far too much before camp has even started. They will experiment with combos that you appear to not even be considering.
There's so much flexibility in our roster that its extremely hard to predict the lines if we do sign Jagr. Gulutzan and the coaching staff will have a lot of combinations to play with.
...Bennett has a solid rookie year playing with Backlund and Frolik (18-18-36) and then gets moved out of the top-6 to make room for Tkachuk (13-35-48)...
That is not at all what happened.
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Wow that's a lot of assumptions you make in one post. Kind of highlights your lack of open-mindedness on the roster.
Just because we sign Jagr doesn't mean he necessarily has to play with Gaudreau-Monahan. I'd almost rather have Jagr with Tkachuk-Bennett to try and create another really good scoring line. Why put all your eggs in one basket when you can create three great lines?
Bennett doesn't necessarily have to play with Versteeg, Lazar or Brouwer. Although I do like the idea of a Tkachuk-Bennett-Brouwer line. I mean your suggestion is viable but its not the only way to construct the lines. Personally I think if you want to maximize all three of your top lines that you give Bennett at least one more high skill player in Tkachuk or Jagr or whoever. I think Tkachuk-Bennett in particular could develop into as dangerous an offensive duo as Gaudreau-Monahan eventually (not necessarily right away) and give us three fantastic lines. You could have Jankowski work his way in as a LW with Backlund-Frolik just like Tkachuk did.
Heck we don't even know if Bennett will stay at centre. Certainly it seems likely. But if Jankowski outperforms Bennett we could see Janko at 3rd line centre and Bennett could re-join Backlund-Frolik where he arguably had his best offensive stretch of his NHL career.
Use a little imagination Ricardo. We all know you can't though because you see TOI as the determining statistic for most things. But overall I think you're assuming far too much before camp has even started. They will experiment with combos that you appear to not even be considering.
There's so much flexibility in our roster that its extremely hard to predict the lines if we do sign Jagr. Gulutzan and the coaching staff will have a lot of combinations to play with.
And in negotiating with Jagr you do not think that the Flames are selling a chance for Jagr to play his last season with Monahan and Gaudreau? He wants lesser linemates than Barkov and Hurbedeau?
No, it isn't. They actually started the season together on a line with Brouwer. Eventually lines changed and Tkachuk was put with Backlund and Frolik (after Ferland struggled) and that line clicked.
5on5 Tkachuk finished with 12:37 of ice time per game
Bennett finished much lower.. with an identical 12:37 per game.
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Treliving has been pretty clear that the Flames see Bennett as centre - full stop.
Agreed.
Management has said it is easy to find wingers, and to move a good centre to the wing can be a waste of that good centre. They see Sammy as a very good centre.
