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View Poll Results: Best guess for Tkachuk's contract result
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8 @ 7M
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10 |
1.61% |
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8 @ 8M
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41 |
6.59% |
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8 @ 9M
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21 |
3.38% |
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8 @ 10M
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8 |
1.29% |
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7 @ 7M
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21 |
3.38% |
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7 @ 8M
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61 |
9.81% |
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7 @ 9M
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19 |
3.05% |
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7 @ 10M
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3 |
0.48% |
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6 @ 6M
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4 |
0.64% |
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6 @ 7M
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48 |
7.72% |
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6 @ 8M
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126 |
20.26% |
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6 @ 9M
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27 |
4.34% |
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5 @ 6M
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3 |
0.48% |
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5 @ 7M
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56 |
9.00% |
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5 @ 8M
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66 |
10.61% |
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5 @ 9M
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10 |
1.61% |
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4 @ 5M
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0.16% |
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4 @ 6M
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0.64% |
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4 @ 7M
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19 |
3.05% |
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3 @ 4M
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0.32% |
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3 @ 5M
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0.64% |
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3 @ 6M
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46 |
7.40% |
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2 @ 4M
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0.48% |
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2 @ 5M
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2.41% |
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1 @ 4M
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0.16% |
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1 @ 5M
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0.48% |
09-23-2019, 01:42 PM
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#1841
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KipperFaNaTic
Gadreau had a relative down year during his stalled negotiation...
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Yeah, and this was after playing best-on-best hockey for a month in an elite-level hockey tournament. The World Cup significantly mitigated the effects of missing camp for Gaudreau in 2016. Tkachuk will be much further behind this year.
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09-23-2019, 01:53 PM
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#1842
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Yeah, and this was after playing best-on-best hockey for a month in an elite-level hockey tournament. The World Cup significantly mitigated the effects of missing camp for Gaudreau in 2016. Tkachuk will be much further behind this year.
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The year Drew Doughty held out, he had an underwhelming regular season. I don't believe he broke 40 points.
But he did win the Stanley Cup.
The Flames can make the playoffs without Tkachuk for X amount of time. But if they have aspirations to win it all this year, they need him.
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09-23-2019, 01:58 PM
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#1843
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The market is seeing sanity restored. I think Tkachuk should be in the fold before the season starts
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09-23-2019, 02:21 PM
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#1844
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Saddledome, Calgary
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This is getting stupid now. The guy is going to miss the entirety of camp... his call I guess, but we know how that usually goes for players.
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09-23-2019, 02:24 PM
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#1845
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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The longer this goes on, the less I like the player. I can see this ending in a Turris type situation where he's traded in December.
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09-23-2019, 02:27 PM
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#1846
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969
The longer this goes on, the less I like the player. I can see this ending in a Turris type situation where he's traded in December.
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do you still hold it against Gaudreau?
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09-23-2019, 02:34 PM
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#1847
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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No, this just seems different. Part of it is because of Dubas (needs an M and another S) started giving out bad contracts and it seems like Matty is going to get one too.
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09-23-2019, 02:35 PM
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#1848
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
do you still hold it against Gaudreau?
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Or Iginla.
Iginla missed 3 games in 99-00 due to contract dispute.
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09-23-2019, 02:39 PM
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#1849
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969
No, this just seems different. Part of it is because of Dubas (needs an M and another S) started giving out bad contracts and it seems like Matty is going to get one too.
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If anything, I think the impasse shows rather clearly that he will not. Treliving simply cannot afford to pay Tkachuk anything close to what Marner is making. The cap isn't there.
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09-23-2019, 02:41 PM
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#1850
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Or Iginla.
Iginla missed 3 games in 99-00 due to contract dispute.
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And two years later was another late signing, getting a deal done in the middle of camp September 18th of 2002.
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09-23-2019, 02:47 PM
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#1851
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rando
And two years later was another late signing, getting a deal done in the middle of camp September 18th of 2002.
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Iginla was always a tough negotiator and went for top dollar every time.
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09-23-2019, 02:53 PM
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#1852
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KipperFaNaTic
Gadreau had a relative down year during his stalled negotiation and I strongly believe that Jagr didn't work out because of his lack of a training camp.
You need training camp to get up to speed and build rapport with your teammates and to also get your body fit to prevent injuries.
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wasn't part of the problem with Gaudreau that year not that he missed camp so much as he was injured by the Wild? didn't that happen like a month into that season?
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09-23-2019, 03:00 PM
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#1853
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Iginla was always a tough negotiator and went for top dollar every time.
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Iginla was also a legit superstar, the face of the franchise, a great ambassador, in the conversation for best player in the league, the reason many people bought tickets when there wasn’t much else to see, etc
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09-23-2019, 03:00 PM
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#1854
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Franchise Player
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Matthew's dad was always well-compensated for his services as well.
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09-23-2019, 03:02 PM
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#1855
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonBlue
wasn't part of the problem with Gaudreau that year not that he missed camp so much as he was injured by the Wild? didn't that happen like a month into that season?
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Gaudreau had seven points in his first 13 games that season and a -11. It was a rough start and he looked bad.
That wasn't the only factor of course, Monahan was injured, hadn't played a preseason game. Versteeg was signed late from the Oilers, that entire lineplayed together for the first time opening night in Edmonton... but no doubt missing camp effected him.
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09-23-2019, 03:03 PM
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#1856
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonBlue
wasn't part of the problem with Gaudreau that year not that he missed camp so much as he was injured by the Wild? didn't that happen like a month into that season?
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Gaudreau did not play well up to the Minnesota game. He was coming off of a 1.00 pts/GP season, and started 2016–17 with 11 points in his first 17 games. He was actually better after the injury going from 0.65 pts/GP to 0.93 pts/GP when he returned.
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09-23-2019, 03:03 PM
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#1857
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
Iginla was also a legit superstar, the face of the franchise, a great ambassador, in the conversation for best player in the league, the reason many people bought tickets when there wasn’t much else to see, etc
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He wasn't when he held out in 2000. 
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09-23-2019, 03:08 PM
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#1858
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rando
He wasn't when he held out in 2000. |
Good guy attended camp in good faith and bought his own insurance
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09-23-2019, 03:10 PM
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#1859
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Friedman on SN960 just said that he believes both Tkachuk and the Flames want to sign a long term deal.
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09-23-2019, 03:13 PM
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#1860
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#1 Goaltender
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Music to my ears.
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