10-05-2017, 04:07 PM
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Backup Goalie
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I found it ludicrous of Sakic to protect Varlamov over Pickard back at the draft. Very peculiar stuff. Someone will take a flyer on him I'm sure.
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10-05-2017, 04:34 PM
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#42
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
I found it ludicrous of Sakic to protect Varlamov over Pickard back at the draft. Very peculiar stuff. Someone will take a flyer on him I'm sure.
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How do people find that ludicrous? Varlamov has shown he's an above average #1 when he's on his game. Pickard hasn't proven anything.
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10-05-2017, 04:52 PM
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#43
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
How do people find that ludicrous? Varlamov has shown he's an above average #1 when he's on his game. Pickard hasn't proven anything.
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I would argue he proved something by out playing Varlamov over the course of an entire season
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10-05-2017, 04:57 PM
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#44
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Scoring Winger
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Not that hard out outplay someone who was injured for most of the season
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10-05-2017, 05:04 PM
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#45
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sunny California
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Shut up.
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It would be a good move for them. Thanks for your insightful contribution though.
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10-05-2017, 05:14 PM
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#46
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by neo45
I would argue he proved something by out playing Varlamov over the course of an entire season
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2.98 GAA last season for Pickard. .904 SV%. Those are horrible numbers for a guy playing 50 games.
Meanwhile Varlamov has had seasons where he got
53 GP - 2.59 GAA, 0.913%
63 GP - 2.41 GAA, 0.927%
57 GP - 2.56 GAA, 0.921%
57 GP - 2.81 GAA, 0.914%
Varlamov has had 4 seasons better than Pickard's season last year. Not protecting Varlamov would've been ludicrous. If he's healthy and on his game he's a legit #1 goalie in this league. Pickard hasn't proven anything.
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10-05-2017, 05:47 PM
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#47
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#1 Goaltender
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^Pickard had better numbers literally every year they have been on the same team
Not the best argument to put forward lol
Especially the 4 year trend of his GAA and save percentage getting worse... that is an awful sign for a goalie
Last edited by neo45; 10-05-2017 at 05:55 PM.
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10-05-2017, 05:53 PM
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#48
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Threadkiller
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All I know is that he would be an upgrade on Lack, but I bet he'll be claimed before we get the chance...
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10-05-2017, 05:54 PM
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#49
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Scoring Winger
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Having a slightly better save percentage as a BACKUP playing less than 20 games is not more impressive than having a good save percentage as a starter playing ~60 games.
I like Pickard but there's no way hes proven hes better than Varlamov.
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10-05-2017, 05:57 PM
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#50
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by nightfx
Having a slightly better save percentage as a BACKUP playing less than 20 games is not more impressive than having a good save percentage as a starter playing ~60 games.
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No, but posting SIGNIFICANTLY better stats while playing 50 games is.
And .40 GAA less is significantly better
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10-05-2017, 06:47 PM
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#51
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Franchise Player
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Flames won't give up on Lack. He is a "locker room" guy. And we need to let him prove that his horrid play in Carolina was due to bad coaching.
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10-05-2017, 06:54 PM
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#52
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Originally Posted by squiggs96
He said he has a 9.04 save percentage. That means he saves 9.04% of the shots he faces. If he faces 100 shots, and saves 9.04% of them, he lets in about 91 of them, and stops about 9 of them. That's just math.
It was more me pointing out that he needs to display it either as 90.4%, or .904. 9.04 is wrong. I was having a little math fun.
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9.04 means he's making 9.04 saves for every shot. He's the best goalie ever!
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10-05-2017, 09:25 PM
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#53
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by calf
Math fun is the best kind of fun.
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Originally Posted by spuzzum
Sorry but between the sheets in better!
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Multiplying counts as both.
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10-05-2017, 10:04 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by squiggs96
He said he has a 9.04 save percentage. That means he saves 9.04% of the shots he faces. If he faces 100 shots, and saves 9.04% of them, he lets in about 91 of them, and stops about 9 of them. That's just math.
It was more me pointing out that he needs to display it either as 90.4%, or .904. 9.04 is wrong. I was having a little math fun.
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Go back to your snakes and leave math alone!
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10-06-2017, 10:07 AM
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#55
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Chris Johnston @reporterchris
Martin Marincin and Calvin Pickard both cleared waivers.
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10-06-2017, 10:46 AM
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#56
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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well that's kind of surprising. I figured at least the Avs would put a claim in on Pickard.
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10-06-2017, 11:33 AM
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#57
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Halifax, NS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Icon
well that's kind of surprising. I figured at least the Avs would put a claim in on Pickard.
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I wonder how much politics plays into things like this?
If you're trying to make a deal with GMGM involving one of his many defensemen do you claim Pickard or would you be worried that would negatively affect the deal.
There are only 31 GMs in the league and they tend to remember how everyone else acts. This is why we don't see many offer sheets in the league.
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10-06-2017, 11:39 AM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by JerryUnderscore
I wonder how much politics plays into things like this?
If you're trying to make a deal with GMGM involving one of his many defensemen do you claim Pickard or would you be worried that would negatively affect the deal.
There are only 31 GMs in the league and they tend to remember how everyone else acts. This is why we don't see many offer sheets in the league.
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If you put a player on waivers and are mad at another GM for claiming said player, you don't belong in the league.
Also were people really arguing protecting Pickard over Varlamov in expansion?
Who knows about the future, but Varlamov is only 29 and has a lot more experience than a big question mark in 25 year old Pickard. It was a no brainer to protect Varlamov, not sure how that's even debatable.
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10-06-2017, 11:52 AM
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#59
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Icon
well that's kind of surprising. I figured at least the Avs would put a claim in on Pickard.
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Sounds like they moved on with Bernier
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10-06-2017, 11:52 AM
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#60
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Halifax, NS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
If you put a player on waivers and are mad at another GM for claiming said player, you don't belong in the league.
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I'm not saying "mad" but if I'm a GM with a ton of defensemen and I have a couple teams calling me with offers, assuming the offers are roughly the same, I'm going to trade a D man to the team that didn't just claim my goalie.
Similarly, if I'm trying to convince a team to trade me one of their defensemen and that team puts a goalie on waivers, unless he is an obvious improvement over what I have in net, I don't think I'm going to claim him.
I'm not saying players should never be claimed or that GMs should always worry about hurting the feeling of other GMs. But it's a 31 team league and when you're looking to upgrade your team you don't have a lot of options out there.
Like I said, it's the same reason why there are rarely ever offer sheets in the league. GMs remember that stuff.
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