Summer 2014 Prospect Ranking Goalie Run Off

[Bingo]

since they slotted so close in round 9, a true one off to firm up the rankings

[Finger Cookin]

My vote is for sale, CP.

[_Q_]

Ortio again for me.

I have a feeling this will be close as well.

[Gaskal]

Ortio is currently further along in his development, but Gillies has more upside so I went with Gillies.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

^ Same. I stuck with Gillies.

[Read Only]

As I said last time the two goalies have the same upside (ok starter in the NHL) but because Ortio has already shown he can play pro hockey his floor is much higher than Gillies so I went with Ortio.

[saXon]

Gillies has higher upside. Wait till he gets some pro experience.

[Coach]

I'm pretty torn on them to be honest. I think they are both great prospects and can hopefully be a great duo in the future. Right now I give the edge to Ortio just for experience and dramatic improvement in his game.

[FeyWest]

I'm with Gillies, as much as I like Ortio, Gillies just has an air about him that makes me want to stick with him, he even occupies my sig . I'd love if both pan out to being amazing goalies and we run a 1a/1a tandem

*Edit* All tied up again I see!

[SuperMatt18]

I went with Gillies but only because I think he has the higher potential. Not much separating these two IMO.

[CsInMyBlood]

Gilles for me, but at this point there is no right answer. I also like Ortio.

I think it is awesome that we have two goalie prospects that look as good as they do. Hopefully at least one of them has a long and successful career for the Flames with multiple Vezina trophies awarded to him.

[Savvy27]

Went with Joni Ortio. No disrespect meant to Gillies, but I prefer Ortio's style and love the fact that he has developed into an elite starter in the AHL.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by saXon

Gillies has higher upside. Wait till he gets some pro experience.

Does he have more upside? I'm not honestly convinced its that transparent. Ortio went through a low spot in his development two or three years ago and rebounded quite nicely. He had a couple of terrible prospect camps and went to Finlnad to improve. It paid off.

Fillies had an off season last year and while I am quite high on him I'd like to see how he rebounds to his low spot in his development before I could peg him as having a higher upside. In compassion between the two I still think Ortio has the edge in this years vote but that can change next year.

Its tough tossing around votes for players that have more than a year separating them development wise.

But like I said, this year, Ortio is the guy that has higher upside.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

LOL, 22-22. Split directly down the middle so far. Oh CP, why are you making this so hard?

[Freeway]

Gillies has had more success earlier.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

LOL, 22-22. Split directly down the middle so far. Oh CP, why are you making this so hard?

It's definitely going to be very close again, just like yesterday. This run-off is brought to you by the Redundant Department of Redundancy.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Been high on Ortio for a long time, and was very disappointed with his first short stint in North America. However, seems he is more than back on track. I still think his upside is very high. Gillies and even MacDonald seem like higher-end legitimate goalie prospects as well, just like Ortio a little bit more.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

You know it's a funny thing. Ortio was barely even rated last year because of his very poor first North American showing. Everyone had written him off as a depth filler in our prospect pool and nothing more, mostly because they hadn't watched him in Europe slowly hone his game. Now he has one very good year and he's our top goalie prospect.

Gillies has done nothing but be very impressive save for a short stint at the WJC which everyone saw and then a subsequent mediocre month, following which he found his "A" game again.

You'd think that everyone would be more forgiving of a small bump in the road after watching Ortio massively fail and then regain his form. I really like Ortio, but I would consider even putting McDonald ahead of him as a better potential goalie.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

You know it's a funny thing. Ortio was barely even rated last year because of his very poor first North American showing. Everyone had written him off as a depth filler in our prospect pool and nothing more, mostly because they hadn't watched him in Europe slowly hone his game. Now he has one very good year and he's our top goalie prospect.

Gillies has done nothing but be very impressive save for a short stint at the WJC which everyone saw and then a subsequent mediocre month, following which he found his "A" game again.

You'd think that everyone would be more forgiving of a small bump in the road after watching Ortio massively fail and then regain his form. I really like Ortio, but I would consider even putting McDonald ahead of him as a better potential goalie.

As junior aged players both Ortio and Gillies looked very good. Ortio struggled in his first trip to North America but has rebounded to put up great AHL numbers. For me, they were similar as junior aged guys and Ortio's showing last year puts him a step ahead.

[FeyWest]

I don't understand why some seem to think Gillies had an off season, there certainly was a string of games where he struggled after the WJC's (Injury, slump, etc... not sure what) but the guy posted 8 shutouts which is a PC record (9 if you count his s/o over Quinnepiac) over his 5 from the previous season, sure his GAA 2.16 is higher than 2.08 (-0.08) but he had equivalent SV% of .931.

He showed he can battle through adversity and come out as strong as ever. I just don't think fell back developmentally like some. It's not directed at you dammage you just catalyzed it, I've heard a few posters in other forums say the same when I just don't think it's true at all.