[Signing] Tampa signs Vasilevskiy to extension starting in 2020 (8 yrs, $9.5 mil AAV)

[1991 Canadian]

In the cap era, I couldn’t recall that many highly paid goaltenders winning cups. So it got me to thinking, has a team ever won the cup with a goalie with a >10% cap hit at time of signing?

2006 Carolina: Cam Ward. $684k AAV. 1.75% cap hit at signing
2007 Anaheim: Jean-Sebestian Giguere. $3.99 million AAV. Unknown cap hit percentage (signed before cap)
2008 Detroit: Chris Osgood. $800k AAV. Unknown cap hit percentage (signed before cap)
2009 Pittsburgh: Marc-Andre Fluery. $5 million AAV. 8.82% cap hit at signing
2010 Chicago: Anti Niemi. 826k AAV. 1.46% cap hit at signing
2011 Boston: Tim Thomas $5 million AAV. 8.82% cap hit at signing
2012 LA: Johnathan Quick. $1.8 million AAV. 3.4% cap hit at signing
2013 Chicago: Corey Crawford. $2.6 million AAV. 4.49% cap hit at signing
2014 LA: Johnathan Quick. $5.8 AAV. 9.67% cap hit at signing
2015 Chicago: Corey Crawford. $6 million AAV. 9.33% cap hit at signing
2016 Pittsburgh: Matt Murray. 902k AAV. 1% cap hit at signing
2017 Pittsburgh: Matt Murray. 902k AAV. 1% cap hit at signing
2018 Washington: Braden Holtby. $6.1 AAV. 8.54% cap hit at signing
2019 St. Louis: Jordan Binnington. $625k. .82% cap hit at signing

The answer is no. No team has ever won a cup in the cap era with a goalie who they signed for north of 10 percent of the cap. It does appear that the teams spending the most on goaltending are not winning Stanley Cups.

Vasilevskiy's 11.66% cap hit is going to be tough for the Lightning to overcome. Even when goalies perform to these big contracts, historically they are not great investments.

[bax]

Originally Posted by 1991 Canadian

In the cap era, I couldn’t recall that many highly paid goaltenders winning cups. So it got me to thinking, has a team ever won the cup with a goalie with a >10% cap hit at time of signing?

2006 Carolina: Cam Ward. $684k AAV. 1.75% cap hit at signing
2007 Anaheim: Jean-Sebestian Giguere. $3.99 million AAV. Unknown cap hit percentage (signed before cap)
2008 Detroit: Chris Osgood. $800k AAV. Unknown cap hit percentage (signed before cap)
2009 Pittsburgh: Marc-Andre Fluery. $5 million AAV. 8.82% cap hit at signing
2010 Chicago: Anti Niemi. 826k AAV. 1.46% cap hit at signing
2011 Boston: Tim Thomas $5 million AAV. 8.82% cap hit at signing
2012 LA: Johnathan Quick. $1.8 million AAV. 3.4% cap hit at signing
2013 Chicago: Corey Crawford. $2.6 million AAV. 4.49% cap hit at signing
2014 LA: Johnathan Quick. $5.8 AAV. 9.67% cap hit at signing
2015 Chicago: Corey Crawford. $6 million AAV. 9.33% cap hit at signing
2016 Pittsburgh: Matt Murray. 902k AAV. 1% cap hit at signing
2017 Pittsburgh: Matt Murray. 902k AAV. 1% cap hit at signing
2018 Washington: Braden Holtby. $6.1 AAV. 8.54% cap hit at signing
2019 St. Louis: Jordan Binnington. $625k. .82% cap hit at signing

The answer is no. No team has ever won a cup in the cap era with a goalie who they signed for north of 10 percent of the cap. It does appear that the teams spending the most on goaltending are not winning Stanley Cups.

Vasilevskiy's 11.66% cap hit is going to be tough for the Lightning to overcome. Even when goalies perform to these big contracts, historically they are not great investments.

LOL at Binnington's 0.82% of cap. 4.4 million is going to feel like a massive pay day for him.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

I dont know if I'd rather have Vasileviskiy at $9.5m or Jankowski and Rittch at a much lower cap hit.

We could have drafted him in 2012 with our original pick but I just dont like the idea of paying a goalie that much.

Lol this can't be a real question... we definitely should have taken Vasileviskiy.

The contract is expensive but if there's any goalie in the league to spend that sort of cash on, it's this guy.

[The Cobra]

How many goalies actually make more than 10% of the cap?

It's a pretty select company, and a very small sample size.

There are 4 on your list that were over 8.5%, so you've made a cut-off that appears pretty arbitrary.

[jayswin]

Yeah, a lot of those goalies were still top 5 goalies in the league. The difference is, much like RFA's getting paid UFA money, we're also hitting a time where you can no longer get a top 5 -10 goalie for peanuts because "nobody in the NHL pays goalies, it's just a thing".


The NHL salary structure started becoming an algorithm that is finding out exactly who gives the most value, at what age and how much to pay.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

How many goalies actually make more than 10% of the cap?

It's a pretty select company, and a very small sample size.

There are 4 on your list that were over 8.5%, so you've made a cut-off that appears pretty arbitrary.

While it's true that there were those four, there are a bunch at 1% or so of the cap. It's pretty clear that it's all over the place, though mostly explained by the point in each goalie's career.