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Old 09-19-2018, 10:17 AM   #41
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Bennett just has to keep this up. Hope he doesn't let up. If he just keeps playing his game, and starts having some fun too. Points will come. That sounds kinda cliche, but I think it's true. That's how he'll get his confidence back, and I still think he can be a very impact full player.
If Bennett can play well on the PK, play hard and stay out the box then I would be more then happy if he produced 40-50 points a year
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Old 09-19-2018, 10:18 AM   #42
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Can we just be somewhere in between on Bennett? No need to lay a beating on him based on game breaking expectations, but neither should we fanboy and glorify his visual game despite any statistical results.

He's currently not a top player on the team, but he's also not Hathaway/Lazar. It's pretty okay to be on the fence on him right now, you don't have to be firmly on one side or the other.
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Old 09-19-2018, 10:18 AM   #43
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losing sucks.
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Old 09-19-2018, 10:23 AM   #44
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losing sucks.
Yep but its preseason so I care way less
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Old 09-19-2018, 10:24 AM   #45
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This is where we're going to miss Dougie Hamilton. Flames will have to give up big assets to acquire something they already had.

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Old 09-19-2018, 10:27 AM   #46
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Something was either really ####ed up with the ice or everyone needs some laser rust removal because there was a pretty notable quantity of whiffed shots and bobbled pucks that didn't look particularly difficult to handle
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Old 09-19-2018, 10:28 AM   #47
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It’s quite clear at this point there are a number of “fans” on this board who have no objectivity when it comes to Bennett and just hate on him even when undeserved. Making this board hard to read.
I find it quite amusing how you continuously call people out on this board who don't share the same opinion as you.

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"fans" --> who the heck gives you the right to determine who is a fan and who is not?
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Old 09-19-2018, 10:45 AM   #48
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Too be clear, there is no problem with analyzing a player. If that involves thoughtful criticism, even if it it harsh then so be it. What Is unproductive, and quite frankly toxic, is criticism without analysis. It may as well just be called insulting for the sake of making a person feel bad.

The difference between- Bennett shouldn't take as many stupid penalties in the offensive zone and Bennett is garbage fire him into the sun is monumental.

Maybe I am a sentimental fan, but I want to like the players on the team, and I want them to enjoy their time with the Flames. Shamelessly insulting players on the team you support has no place in the game at any level. Unless they play for the Oilers.
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It’s quite clear at this point there are a number of “fans” on this board who have no objectivity when it comes to Bennett and just hate on him even when undeserved. Making this board hard to read.
It is almost trollish at times. It would be one thing to point out something in his play but quite another with the negativity.
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Old 09-19-2018, 10:59 AM   #50
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I'll admit that I was/am on board with trading Bennett. That being said, I wouldn't give him away. If the team could get a severe upgrade in net at the cost of Bennett, I would be ok with it. I wanted him to have a good year but I wasn't really expecting much, if he plays like this every game he'll have exceeded most people's expectations.
We need to be realistic about this. At this point, Bennett isn't going to net a starting goalie with salary retained in a trade unless you add a lot. If I'm the Flames, I'm not willing to part with a roster player with lots of team control plus one of Dube, Andersson, Kylington, or Valimaki and a first round pick for an upgrade in goal with salary retained, but that's likely what it would take.

Bennett is worth more in the lineup if we're planning to be a contender than anything else we could get in return.
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Old 09-19-2018, 11:05 AM   #51
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I still didn't really see it out of Bennett, and seeing a guy like debrusk terrorize us is just salt in the wound- he plays the game I wish Bennett would.

What a lemon.
Two games into the pre-season and we're already all over players?

I'm as done with Bennett as anyone but he needs time to at least find his legs and become acclimated to playing with new players, under a new coach. It's unfair to evaluate him or anyone for that matter until they've played a decent amount of meaningful hockey....like maybe revisit this sometime in mid November?
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I only saw half the game, but thought that Bennett and Jankowski looked good together, while Hathaway looked terrible. Frankly, Bennett and Janko looked more dangerous when they were together on the PK. They really need an NHL-caliber RW to reach their potential.
I’d like to see Bennett and Janko get Czarnik or Dube on the right wing.
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This is where we're going to miss Dougie Hamilton. Flames will have to give up big assets to acquire something they already had.
Uh, Hamilton didn't play on the PP much in Calgary. And when he did it was terrible still.
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Re: Sam Bennett. Getting chances and missing on them is fine. At least he's getting them. It's hockey, they don't all go in. If he's not getting chances, it's a problem.

A guy who 'couldn't finish' and was lambasted for missing 10 breakaways has scored 53 goals for the Montreal Canadiens since we waived him.

I'm just not that eager to remake that movie with the former 4th overall pick in the leading role.
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Uh, Hamilton didn't play on the PP much in Calgary. And when he did it was terrible still.
In his three seasons in Calgary, he had the second-most PP ice time among defencemen, behind Gio. He scored an equal number of goals and only one less point than Gio on the PP in the last three seasons.
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Old 09-19-2018, 11:28 AM   #56
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^ Also: Sven Baertschi, after only scoring 8 goals in 66 games for the Flames goes on to score 49 goals in 193 games for the Vancouver Canucks.
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Old 09-19-2018, 11:33 AM   #57
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I watched the 1st 2 periods before going to the office. I would like to see us ice a line-up that does not include Lazar, Hathaway, Kulak or Stone. I thought Andresson looked good, and even Prout was fine. Hopefully, once the pieces are sorted, one of Ryan or Czarnik winds up with Bennett/Jankowski.
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^ Also: Sven Baertschi, after only scoring 8 goals in 66 games for the Flames goes on to score 49 goals in 193 games for the Vancouver Canucks.
well if we're going there,
Brett Hull, after only scoring 27 goals in 57 games for the flames...
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Old 09-19-2018, 12:18 PM   #59
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and after leaving Calgary, Martin St. Louis went on to score 1000+ points too!
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Old 09-19-2018, 12:25 PM   #60
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Hindsight can be a very bad thing sometimes.

I'm just sad we are out of the preseason cup playoffs.
Another losing preseason...gawddang it.

Regular season can hurry up and start now please.
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