04-10-2018, 09:03 PM
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#81
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
I'm confused. On the question of who should be the backup goaltender, why is Rittich not even an option? I remember voting for him, and he's clearly the strongest candidate.
I love how fans are split on Curtis Lazar, but are more willing to keep Garnet Hathaway. Is it simply due to acquisition cost? Seems kinda dumb to me because Lazar is a much better player.
68% of fans saying to let Backlund go and yet 60% say keep Sam Bennett......goddam it.......why do fans not recognize players who are the real difference makers on a team? Sure, he wasn't as good as last year, but he's still really good at both ends of the ice. Is it simply because of the new contract? Is the love for Sam simply because of his age and draft pedigree? Seems stupid to me.
Also, I'm disappointed that the power play only got 12% of the vote for biggest reason for missing the playoffs. I could go into a rant on how special teams often lead to your position in the standings, but I'm too tired. Maybe tomorrow.
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He is?
Im curious how you come to that conclusion.
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04-10-2018, 09:08 PM
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#82
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: The real "Cowtown"
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Really surprised about 68% wanting Backlund gone.
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Maybe they mixed up the "let him go" with the "keep him?"
I know his numbers were down this year, but I really doubt that more people would like to ship Backlund out than Brodie.
Also...68% is way too close to 88%.
Last edited by CF84; 04-11-2018 at 02:19 PM.
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04-10-2018, 09:12 PM
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#83
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Franchise Player
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I love how more people want Jerrard fired than Gulutzan, but the PK was probably the most consistently good attribute this season.
As for the "keep Gelinas" - what does he do? When Gulutzan was hired, it SEEMED like Gelinas was part in parcel to accepting the job here in Calgary, and Gulutzan just relegated him up there. How much of an impact did Gelinas have? I have no idea. Absolutely none.
What I find interesting is that Gelinas has received a nice learning experience from two very different coaches running very different systems and having very different personality styles. Maybe it has helped him, maybe it has just confused the heck out of him. Who is to know?
At any rate, this entire survey is cringe worthy with how leading some of the questions are. Who knows how many Edmonton fans have jumped on it too (who the heck is saying "Give Gulutzan a raise"???). These types of things can never be taken with anything other than from a purely entertaining standpoint.
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04-10-2018, 09:13 PM
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#84
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by transplant99
He is?
Im curious how you come to that conclusion.
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Purely my non expert opinion. A much better skater, better defensively, more hockey sense, better playmaker, slightly better shooter. I thought Hathaway was unimpressive for most of the year. Jooris 2.0.
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04-10-2018, 09:15 PM
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#85
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I love how everyone wants the coaching staff let go but Gelinas has 70% support. Outside of his name how exactly is he some shining beacon?
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Those who know Gelinas know he's a tireless worker and all around great guy. every good team has a coach like him and I certainly can see the 70% support for him.
Even if he just coached ethics Martin would be worth retaining.
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04-10-2018, 09:19 PM
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#86
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Strathmore
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poll is closed now
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04-10-2018, 09:23 PM
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#87
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Very interesting to see how split fans are about Versteeg. I'm one of the people who voted to keep him and that margin is razor-thin.
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04-10-2018, 09:29 PM
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#88
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Purely my non expert opinion. A much better skater, better defensively, more hockey sense, better playmaker, slightly better shooter. I thought Hathaway was unimpressive for most of the year. Jooris 2.0.
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I thought they were pretty much the same player ....Lazar quicker, Hathaway grittier.
Both players that need to be upgraded.
But more hockey sense? All I saw was a guy skating around really fast doing...well...nothing. Rico Fata V2.
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04-10-2018, 09:38 PM
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#89
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Really surprised about 68% wanting Backlund gone.
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Not surprised. Over-rated player who is now over-paid. Going to be tough paying a third line center that much money. Fans probably see him as a player to move while you have the opportunity.
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04-10-2018, 10:15 PM
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#90
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
I'm confused. On the question of who should be the backup goaltender, why is Rittich not even an option? I remember voting for him, and he's clearly the strongest candidate.
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If you add them all up, there's 44% missing from the total. I assume that's what Rittich got.
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04-10-2018, 10:24 PM
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#91
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by New Era
Not surprised. Over-rated player who is now over-paid. Going to be tough paying a third line center that much money. Fans probably see him as a player to move while you have the opportunity.
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-Goal production down 35% since last year.
-From a +9 to a - 21 this year.
-Doubled penalty minutes. 3rd most on the team, last year he was 11th on the team.
-Played all 82 games,no major injuries.
-Same linemates as last year.
-3 goals in last two calendar months of play, which was 32 games, and crucial games. He flat out disappeared when the pressure got turned up.
-But got a 5 year extension in the middle of all that.
He is a 3rd line center, playing on the second line because we don't have any better options.
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04-10-2018, 10:38 PM
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#92
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by browna
He is a 3rd line center, playing on the second line because we don't have any better options.
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Preaching to the choir. I’ve been saying this for a couple years now. Backlund is a 3rd line center and you pay him as such. Too late now. Treliving gave him way more than he’s worth and the Flames are going to have to live with it. Jankowski will surpass Backlund this season, especially if the new coach gives him Tkachuk and Bennett as full time line mates. That is a line just waiting to drive the opposition crazy and be a thorn in their sides. Hopefully Backlund becomes that Selke shutdown center in the third line to earn his keep.
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04-10-2018, 11:08 PM
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#94
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Scoring Winger
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If the poll supports it, can we reverse Backlund's massive raise?
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04-10-2018, 11:10 PM
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#95
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Scoring Winger
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Backlund doesn't score much but he's awesome at defense. Only -21 on the year, worst on the team. Damn, did we just sign him for another 6 years? Way past his prime.
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04-10-2018, 11:11 PM
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#96
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Very interesting to see how split fans are about Versteeg. I'm one of the people who voted to keep him and that margin is razor-thin.
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I voted to let him go. Tough one for sure. Good guy, leader, skilled, contributes, cares about winning. I get it.
But he's also getting older and is often injured. Would rather clear up the fourth line for a younger guy who can bring more energy, enthusiasm, but also bring skill!
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04-10-2018, 11:16 PM
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#97
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Yeah I feel the same about Versteeg. I like the guy and was thrilled we brought him back for another year but now I just don't think we need him anymore
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04-11-2018, 12:09 AM
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#98
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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The powerplay metrics stick out for sure, but there's no denying that Versteeg doesn't do much at 5-on-5. I think if they hire a new PP coach he's gone
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04-11-2018, 12:33 AM
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#99
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by transplant99
He is?
Im curious how you come to that conclusion.
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Hathaway is a prototypical 4th line grinder to me. I love Hathaway but I don’t see him having any upside higher than that.
Lazar has more talent, more untapped potential imo. I think if he ever gets a big confidence boost he could evolve into a good 3rd liner.
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04-11-2018, 12:46 AM
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#100
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Hathaways spot on the 3rd line is one we can upgrade. I do wonder if it comes to him and Lazar going into camp for the 4th line RW spot. Lazar really impressed as the season went on. I lost an avatar bet because he didnt get the 35 points I thought he would, But I liked what I saw.
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