07-29-2019, 07:14 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Tampa signs Vasilevskiy to extension starting in 2020 (8 yrs, $9.5 mil AAV)
Dan Milstein-Hockey @HockeyAgent1
Gold Star Hockey client Andrei Vasilevskiy has signed an 8-year extension with the Tampa Bay Lightning. He would like to thank great fans, ownership and management for making Tampa such a great place play and live for him and his family. #WeAreGoldStar!
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
This will be a $9.5M AAV, with almost $45M in bonuses
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07-29-2019, 07:16 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Alberta
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wow. higher than I would have imagined. guess that's the new normal for a star goaltender.
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07-29-2019, 07:26 AM
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Franchise Player
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wonder how things are going between the bolts and their other young star
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07-29-2019, 07:42 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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$42 million on six players in 2020-21, plus whatever Brayden Point will get. That's going to be one top-heavy team.
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07-29-2019, 07:55 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Peterborough, ON
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
$42 million on six players in 2020-21, plus whatever Brayden Point will get. That's going to be one top-heavy team.
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Good.
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07-29-2019, 08:02 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Calgary
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Yikes
Great goalie but that seems like a big commitment for someone who has only been a starter for 3 season and in those 3 seasons has only averaged 56 games.
Fresh for those "long" playoff runs I suppose...
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07-29-2019, 08:08 AM
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Franchise Player
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He wasn't even a RFA yet.
But I'd rather commit 8 years to a 25 year old goalie than signing Bobo like Florida did.
They are certainly getting him for his prime years.
If the Bolts waited, they would always need to sign him to an 8 year contract, and the AAV would only increase as the years went by.
This way, they start years 8 years sooner and get him for more prime years guaranteed.
If he was a RFA next year, the number wouldn't be less, based on what other RFA"s are asking for. And perhaps he might have only wanted to sign for the years to take him to UFA.
Looks like a great signing, notwithstanding the large commitment.
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07-29-2019, 08:12 AM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Tampa signs Vasilevskiy to extension starting in 2020 (8 yrs, $9.5 mil AAV)
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Originally Posted by The Hendog
Yikes
Great goalie but that seems like a big commitment for someone who has only been a starter for 3 season and in those 3 seasons has only averaged 56 games.
Fresh for those "long" playoff runs I suppose...
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This is the new normal for NHL starting goalies: Fewer regular season games in hopes that they will be in better condition for a long playoff run.
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07-29-2019, 08:17 AM
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Franchise Player
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I would have waited. Another good season likely doesn't increase his total amount much. Maybe he gets up to 10M annually for 8 years. But a subpar season or injury could really bring down his cap, or more importantly make Tampa question if they want to commit to him for another 8 years at nearly 10M, not to mention more certainty about the lockout. I guess I just don't see the reward for Tampa offering the contract now instead of waiting.
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07-29-2019, 08:44 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
I would have waited. Another good season likely doesn't increase his total amount much. Maybe he gets up to 10M annually for 8 years. But a subpar season or injury could really bring down his cap, or more importantly make Tampa question if they want to commit to him for another 8 years at nearly 10M, not to mention more certainty about the lockout. I guess I just don't see the reward for Tampa offering the contract now instead of waiting.
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Well one advantage is that they have it done early and now can plan around it.
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07-29-2019, 08:45 AM
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Franchise Player
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Pretty long term rich contract. For people saying that it is better than Bobrovsky, Bobrovsky is a more proven commodity.
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07-29-2019, 08:51 AM
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Quote:
Originally Posted by agulati
Pretty long term rich contract. For people saying that it is better than Bobrovsky, Bobrovsky is a more proven commodity.
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Apples to Oranges. Bobrovski is 30 years old and is a $10AAV until he's 38. He's a great goalie now, but that is an insane contract to have on your books, especially when you're a budget team with an internal cap.
Vasilesky is a top level goalie on a Stanley Cup contender being paid less than Bob through the prime of his career.
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07-29-2019, 08:51 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Have any of these long, expensive goalie contracts really worked out well for the team?
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07-29-2019, 08:57 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itse
Have any of these long, expensive goalie contracts really worked out well for the team?
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I dunno - Price's previous 6 year, $6.5M contract was fairly long and expensive when it was signed. And he was the reason they had any success at all. But that's a hard comparison to The last couple long ones.
Quick, for 7 years at $7M in 2013? He won one more cup but then the team went into the dumper. Was one cup worth it?
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07-29-2019, 09:00 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Much prefer this to the Bobrovsky contract. Should be their unquestioned starter for the entire contract and last season was just the tip of the iceberg as he's improved incrementally every season since becoming a pro and hasn't hit his prime yet.
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07-29-2019, 09:02 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
Apples to Oranges. Bobrovski is 30 years old and is a $10AAV until he's 38. He's a great goalie now, but that is an insane contract to have on your books, especially when you're a budget team with an internal cap.
Vasilesky is a top level goalie on a Stanley Cup contender being paid less than Bob through the prime of his career.
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Vasilevksiy played behind one of the best teams to be assembled in a cap era. Domingue had excellent numbers in a backup role as well behind that team. Bobrosvky has been plying his trade in locales like Philadelphia and Columbus. Goalies tend to have longer shelf lives, in any case.
Edit: I'm not saying Vasilevskiy is not a top 5 goalie in the league, but for a team that is built the way the lightning are, paying 9.5 million for a starting goalie in a cap world seems excessive.
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07-29-2019, 09:32 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
I dunno - Price's previous 6 year, $6.5M contract was fairly long and expensive when it was signed. And he was the reason they had any success at all. But that's a hard comparison to The last couple long ones.
Quick, for 7 years at $7M in 2013? He won one more cup but then the team went into the dumper. Was one cup worth it?
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Considering teams win a cup on average once per 30/31 years, yes. Anything that wins you a cup is worth it.
Plus I don't recall Quick becoming a problem either, although that might just be my memory.
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07-29-2019, 09:32 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by agulati
Vasilevksiy played behind one of the best teams to be assembled in a cap era. Domingue had excellent numbers in a backup role as well behind that team. Bobrosvky has been plying his trade in locales like Philadelphia and Columbus. Goalies tend to have longer shelf lives, in any case.
Edit: I'm not saying Vasilevskiy is not a top 5 goalie in the league, but for a team that is built the way the lightning are, paying 9.5 million for a starting goalie in a cap world seems excessive.
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Well when it comes to goaltending if you have a top 5 goalie you probably want to hold on to him as long as possible because the alternative can be what you have seen in Alberta for most of this decade with the Flames and Oilers taking flyers on european goaltenders and recycling declining veteran goaltenders. I much preferred previous decade with Kipper when goaltending was never a question mark going into the season.
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07-29-2019, 09:33 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itse
Considering teams win a cup on average once per 30/31 years, yes. Anything that wins you a cup is worth it.
Plus I don't recall Quick becoming a problem either, although that might just be my memory.
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He was absolutely not a problem, until last year.
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07-29-2019, 09:43 AM
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First Line Centre
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I dont know if I'd rather have Vasileviskiy at $9.5m or Jankowski and Rittch at a much lower cap hit.
We could have drafted him in 2012 with our original pick but I just dont like the idea of paying a goalie that much.
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