New iPhone/iPhone5/iPhone 2012 Thread

[photon]

Yeah. Too bad they couldn't have some kind of cross-platform system. I mean even if you only had to re-pay for the percentage that the app store takes (Google, Apple) that would be better, TomTom already got the money for the app.

[QuadCityImages]

TomTom isn't even on Android, although it is supposed to come out this summer. There's certainly no reason to buy it or any other GPS app anymore, between Google Nav and Apple's answer to it.

[photon]

Whenever I travel to the US (or elsewhere in the future), there's no way I'm paying for roaming data charges, and the regular maps app on the iPhone doesn't work without data (no idea if the Android one does or not).

But GPS is even more handy, not just for navigation, but turn by turn directions, and an internal POI database as well.

I don't want to buy a separate GPS though and lug that around, so a stand-alone GPS app that works even if the phone is in airplane mode is helpful (doesn't have to be TomTom, there's free alternatives from what I understand though I haven't researched them).

So I think there is some reason to buy TomTom or a similar app.

EDIT: I did try war-driving neighbourhoods to find open Wifi to get data to use the maps, but that didn't work well at all for where I was.

[sworkhard]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

I thought like you. Bored with Apple, the whole thing. Bought a Galaxy S3. Had it for four days before realizing the iPhone's total package and ease of use is still vastly superior to the 'best' handsets its competition puts out.

iOS may have its issues but it is an infinitely more pleasant experience than Android.

I found the opposite. I've used both extensively, own both, and for me the total package of the newest androids is far superior to the iphone. With the apps I use, the i-os devices are laggy and my email, music, and itunes apps are always crashing and resetting. The only app I've seen crash on my sgs3 so far (2 months) is tapatalk, but the latest version fixed that too. However even if stability was comparable for me, widgets, better notifications, better multitasking, and greater customizability on android are always getting me to put down my ipad and iphone down in favour of my sgs3.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by photon

Whenever I travel to the US (or elsewhere in the future), there's no way I'm paying for roaming data charges, and the regular maps app on the iPhone doesn't work without data (no idea if the Android one does or not).

But GPS is even more handy, not just for navigation, but turn by turn directions, and an internal POI database as well.

I don't want to buy a separate GPS though and lug that around, so a stand-alone GPS app that works even if the phone is in airplane mode is helpful (doesn't have to be TomTom, there's free alternatives from what I understand though I haven't researched them).

So I think there is some reason to buy TomTom or a similar app.

EDIT: I did try war-driving neighbourhoods to find open Wifi to get data to use the maps, but that didn't work well at all for where I was.

Android gives turn by turn and you can cache an area for offline use. Not sure how large an area you can cache - haven't tried it out yet.
Bias warning - I have a Galaxy Nexus on JellyBean and I love it to death.

[photon]

Nice, I'll have to try it out on my Nexus 7.

[psicodude]

I believe the maximum offline cache is a 10 mile radius from an address. Not great, but probably good enough for average use. I used it recently in Orlando and 10 miles was plenty. I am pretty sure turn-by-turn nav still required data though. Maybe I had to save the directions first or something.

Back on topic - For the first time in uh, ever, Apple has some real competition in this market from both Android and WP8. Hopefully this forces them to raise the bar.

[woob]

I got TomTom on a good App store sale, so I didn't shell out full price.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by sworkhard

I found the opposite. I've used both extensively, own both, and for me the total package of the newest androids is far superior to the iphone. With the apps I use, the i-os devices are laggy and my email, music, and itunes apps are always crashing and resetting. The only app I've seen crash on my sgs3 so far (2 months) is tapatalk, but the latest version fixed that too. However even if stability was comparable for me, widgets, better notifications, better multitasking, and greater customizability on android are always getting me to put down my ipad and iphone down in favour of my sgs3.

Maybe I got a lemon; my apps would be constantly freezing, the internet was sporadic in its effectiveness (not to mention the browser itself was nigh useless for reading large blocks of text). The only thing that I could definitively identify as superior was the Android facebook app; I'm not sure why, but on 3G, iOS Facebook never works properly.

Ultimately, they're just phones. But having the iTunes store on the phone, not having to lift a finger to sync my music to the device, and everything 'being where it's supposed to be' on an iPhone have convinced me that it's worth another contract or two before I re-visit whether or not Android functions the way I want it to.

[sworkhard]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Maybe I got a lemon; my apps would be constantly freezing, the internet was sporadic in its effectiveness (not to mention the browser itself was nigh useless for reading large blocks of text). The only thing that I could definitively identify as superior was the Android facebook app; I'm not sure why, but on 3G, iOS Facebook never works properly.

Ultimately, they're just phones. But having the iTunes store on the phone, not having to lift a finger to sync my music to the device, and everything 'being where it's supposed to be' on an iPhone have convinced me that it's worth another contract or two before I re-visit whether or not Android functions the way I want it to.

Agreed on the text reflow issue. HTC Android devices do a great job of it, but Samsung is pretty terrible at it. I've tweaked the browser settings to make it acceptable to me. I mostly fixed it by using a different browser though. The biggest difference is likely our usage profiles. Music is pretty much the only thing I still use my iOS devices for and iOS built on apps are still better at it. Since I switched to rdio for most of my music though, I've found apples vehicle integration lacking. Instead of going to the next track in the app I'm using, it starts the music app and starts playing from there. Very annoying.

It's not really a matter of android not functioning the way you want it too, but not caring enough to take the time to learn a whole new os and device, and then deciding if the positives outweigh the negatives. This is as good a reason as any to not change platforms.

Your experiences with android mirror my first 4 days on iOS. Nothing was where it was supposed to be, things didn't work as expected, etc. After a month with the iphone though, it was just as intuitive as android was, even if I missed things like the notification system from android (before apple copied them).

In my opinion, you really have to choose a platform and stick with it until something a lot better comes along. I chose android early on (before the original droid), and it's developed the way I hoped. The only thing that would get me to wholly switch to IOS at this point is if I needed one phone I could use worldwide. The iphone is still nearly the only phone with quad band 3g data.

[MrMastodonFarm]

IMO having an APP like SwiftKey X would make it almost impossible to go back to iOS. SwiftKey is utterly amazing and the way it's predicted words for me is outstanding.

[OilKiller]

Originally Posted by sworkhard

Agreed on the text reflow issue. HTC Android devices do a great job of it, but Samsung is pretty terrible at it.

Yup, excellent on my HTC Raider.

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

IMO having an APP like SwiftKey X would make it almost impossible to go back to iOS. SwiftKey is utterly amazing and the way it's predicted words for me is outstanding.

Couldn't live without it I don't think. Ever since I saw it recommended here, I bought it and haven't looked back since. Version 3 is even better.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by OilKiller

Yup, excellent on my HTC Raider.



Couldn't live without it I don't think. Ever since I saw it recommended here, I bought it and haven't looked back since. Version 3 is even better.

Yup, it's amazing. I've made almost an entire post with it predicting my words before. When I rattled off a list of Flames players once for a depth chart I started with Iginla and it started to predict other forwards.

Google added this feature to their stock key board in jelly bean but it's still a ways away.

[Sopure]

Evidently there's a lot of truth to the change in the connector for the phone. I read a few articles last night and it's a bit outdated, with the newer and smaller ports being offered now.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/...n-iphone-dock/

Probably going to hurt sales a bit with the phone itself, as so many people have invested in expensive docks and speaker systems, etc. Lots of cars are still using the "old" 30-pin connector still. They'll probably have to offer an adaptor.

Accessory makers will be happy though.

[OilKiller]

We've already seen pics of the new adapter, and yes, it is smaller. I'm sure they'll have an adapter.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by psicodude

I believe the maximum offline cache is a 10 mile radius from an address. Not great, but probably good enough for average use. I used it recently in Orlando and 10 miles was plenty. I am pretty sure turn-by-turn nav still required data though. Maybe I had to save the directions first or something.

Back on topic - For the first time in uh, ever, Apple has some real competition in this market from both Android and WP8. Hopefully this forces them to raise the bar.

When I came to Calgary this summer, I was able to cache the Calgary area including Cochrane and airdrie. That was about the limit. Not sure how many miles that is but seems more than a ten mile radius.

[psicodude]

Several news outlets are now reporting that Apple will announce the iPhone 5 and mini iPad on Sept. 12th with a release date of Sept. 21st.

http://gizmodo.com/5930041/report-ap...e-september-12

Seems like a solid month earlier than most analysts were predicting.

[bluejays]

^ I don't know about that. Most I read were expecting end of September/beginning of October. That falls just in there. Besides, it'll likely be the States getting it first, then others countries falling a week after.

As for the leaked supposed leaked enclosure, I have to say I'm not a huge fan. It doesn't appear any thinner than the current phone, and the glass back on the current phone looks better. I'll wait to see what selling points it has. Hopefully they're not going to just sell LTE, because that's simply the standard now.

[Old Yeller]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

SwiftKey is utterly amazing and the way it's predicted words for me is outstanding.

Utterly amazing to the point of almost frightening... SwiftKey get out of my mind.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by OilKiller

I'm sure they'll have an adapter.

Why? It's not exactly apple's mantra to keep things backwards compatible.