Uh.... as far as I know the mineral rights on reserve land is managed by the Indian Oil and Gas Commission and royalties are paid by well operators to mineral rights holders. Not sure where people are getting that rights have suddenly been taken from reservations from some treaty and reverted to the Crown.
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The Louisiana and Alaska Purchases weren't "square" either.
Huge difference. If you really are going to equate the treatment of the native people of this continent to the purchase of lands from one highly developed country to another, then I don't really think it is worth trying to debate the issue with you.
And how are we preventing the natives to participate in this lucrative economy?
The best way to give anyone a proper chance to participate in any economy is through education. The native people of this country have terrible access to education. Just look at the Tsuu T'ina reserve. What can you tell me about the elementary, middle, and high schools that are available for hard working and intelligent youth there? Look it up.
The best way to give anyone a proper chance to participate in any economy is through education. The native people of this country have terrible access to education. Just look at the Tsuu T'ina reserve. What can you tell me about the elementary, middle, and high schools that are available for hard working and intelligent youth there? Look it up.
No idea. I can tell you about the casino expansion and hotel development though.
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I still don't think there are any other options worth doing. Bulldozing a bunch of Lakeview and Glamorgan to make a road with a lesser design standard than the rest of Stoney Trail, at a huge cost doesn't make any sense.
No kidding, the number of online comments I've read today basically saying, "F them, let's stick it to the man and tear up our own city to show them who's boss, at twice the cost." Mind = blown.
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And his point is that some of the money from that development can quite easily go to the schools on the reserve (3 of them), if the Band decides to allocate as such.
Can't help those who don't help themselves.
Also, I believe kids have the choice to go designate Catholic and Public schools in Calgary (Grandin and Wisewood for High School IIRC), and then of course basically free university tuition.
Again, the options are there, both to make the facilities better on the reserve, as well as opportunities for those who want to enter and finish school like every other kid, and then get a free ride for post secondary education.
Don't know if this was touched on before, but the TT nation got $15-20m for the Wesealhead in the last few months...something they already got paid for in the 1930's.
May as well add that to the total of the Ring Road, as its clearly an offering from the government in wake of this proposal, especially since they didn't request the land back, just wanted more money 70+ years later.
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There are three schools on the Reserve. They are federally funded and band operated. With a total population of just under 2,000 I would imagine that hard working youth have relativly good access to the elementary, junior/senior high, and adult education schools. As to the quality of those schools, no idea. Again, they are band operated.
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Treaties were basically cease fire agreements, so lets just redeclare war and get this all over with. Run them back to the mountains. Whats a fourth band on the Morley reserve anyways, that place is broken already.
Sure hope this works!
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Again, the options are there, both to make the facilities better on the reserve, as well as opportunities for those who want to enter and finish school like every other kid, and then get a free ride for post secondary education.
Agreed! Reserves enable them to escape real life and not contribute. Get rid of the reserves and have them join everyone else in regular civilization and I bet their education stats go up and as a whole become a healthier community. They leave all the power to these band leaders who spend all the money making a casino. Get rid of the band and they can preserve their heritage by forming tight knit communities just like everyone else in this country.
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There are 70 houses in lakeview that would need to be purchased and demolished. Let's make it 140 for those of you that are going to argue we need much more space than a single row. At a million dollars house (well over market value ) that adds up to 140 million.
If the band is being offered 500 million and guarenteed land rights, then why are we even considering that route?
Sure, the poor lakeview residents would be displaced but who would refuse to sell their house at a premium price? Is there no room left in or near lakeview for new community development?
There's probably a lot more to it so maybe someone can fill me in.
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There are 70 houses in lakeview that would need to be purchased and demolished. Let's make it 140 for those of you that are going to argue we need much more space than a single row. At a million dollars house (well over market value ) that adds up to 140 million.
If the band is being offered 500 million and guarenteed land rights, then why are we even considering that route?
Sure, the poor lakeview residents would be displaced but who would refuse to sell their house at a premium price? Is there no room left in or near lakeview for new community development?
There's probably a lot more to it so maybe someone can fill me in.
The route has to get around the corner at Glenmore/37th. That means the road would have to veer East of 37th, straight through the heart of Lakeview, arc around the corner, take out a bunch of Glamorgan. To make the corner with a 100km speed limit would require significant chunks of Lakeview and Glamorgan. If that route was ever actually done, they would probably save a few houses, by lowering the design speed to 60 or 80 kmh around that corner.
Also, building a narrow ROW road requires more structure to be built than the standard, wide ROW highway. If you don't have ditches, you have to build something else to handle storm water. More retaining a walks would be needed.
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There are 70 houses in lakeview that would need to be purchased and demolished. Let's make it 140 for those of you that are going to argue we need much more space than a single row. At a million dollars house (well over market value ) that adds up to 140 million.
If the band is being offered 500 million and guarenteed land rights, then why are we even considering that route?
Sure, the poor lakeview residents would be displaced but who would refuse to sell their house at a premium price? Is there no room left in or near lakeview for new community development?
There's probably a lot more to it so maybe someone can fill me in.
I can't seem to remember how the home purchasing went down when Glenmore was made bigger. Didn't the city buy some homes on the northside of Glenmore, between Elbow and 14 st?
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