2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Except that Backlund has better possession stats accrued while taking significantly more defensive zone draws. In a comparison with Turris I'd say that Backlund more then makes up that 10 point production deficit with surplus defensive value.

Maybe in theory or in a perfect world but points hold more value at a negotiating table. It closes the gap a bit but not all the way.

[Kybb79]

I would take Turris over Backlund imo!

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by Kybb79

I would take Turris over Backlund imo!

Bold statement around these parts... I disagree with you. But out of curiosity, why would you take Turris over Backs?

[Kybb79]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Bold statement around these parts... I disagree with you. But out of curiosity, why would you take Turris over Backs?

Well they are both very good players i just like the offensive upside of Turris.

[1qqaaz]

I would also take Turris over Backlund, unless Backlund could be signed at a more reasonable price.

It would be really nice to have another 60 point player on the Flames. As of now, only 2 players can get over 55 points.

[dammage79]

I get the feeling Backlund won't be a Flame in the near future.

I also wonder if things go south tonight in Vancouver if Treliving fires the trade gun before the Xmas freeze on the 19th. Good time as any, get some blood in before the Xmas break and get the 2nd half of the season rolling with some hope that the new players can jump in and contribute fast.

[jayswin]

Definitely Turris over Backlund.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I also wonder if things go south tonight in Vancouver if Treliving fires the trade gun before the Xmas freeze on the 19th. Good time as any, get some blood in before the Xmas break and get the 2nd half of the season rolling with some hope that the new players can jump in and contribute fast.

Probably not considering Burke starts his Xmas trade freeze earlier than the rest of the league.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Probably not considering Burke starts his Xmas trade freeze earlier than the rest of the league.

Only thing I can think of as to why they would buck the Burkie trend: Desperate times call for desperate measures. You're likely right with that Burke reminder but I personally cannot think of perhaps a better time to shake it up.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Probably not considering Burke starts his Xmas trade freeze earlier than the rest of the league.

He fired Feaster and co at a similar date in 2013.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

He fired Feaster and co at a similar date in 2013.

He never said anything about it being for the benefit of management. Always said it was for the players and their families.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Maybe in theory or in a perfect world but points hold more value at a negotiating table. It closes the gap a bit but not all the way.

You are probably right in that regard. However, Turris only has a single season of 60+ points, a couple of seasons of 50+ points, and the rest has been 30 or under. Backlund hit a high of 53 points last season, 47 the season before that, and 27 and 39 the prior years in injury shortened seasons.

I think it is probably safe to say that Backlund is a ~50 pt center at this point, and Turris got paid to be a... 60pt center?

I don't think I take Turris based on prior performances. I take Backlund given that the ~10 or so points he scores he manages to remain a plus player even though he is tasked with the hardest match-ups on the team. Turris has been a minus the last 2 seasons prior to getting traded. There is value there.

To me, Backlund is deserving of a Turris contract. With that being said, Turris has apparently found a really good situation in Nashville and is a PPG player there thus far (small sample size be damned). If Turris keeps it up, then he will be on a bargain contract.

However, I take Backlund over Ottawa Turris every day of the week, and feel he is the more valuable player. I will gladly take 5-10 points less a season if it means he takes the toughest match-ups, outscores the top lines while doing so, and allows the top line in Calgary to see easier minutes and have a better chance to out-score the opposition.

Anything over 6 million I start to waffle a bit, but 6 years at 6 million a year for what Backlund provides is definitely a fair deal. Not wonderful, not a home-town discount, but a fair one.

Personally, I think if the Flames reduce Backlund's defensive zone starts and give him some easy minutes and assignments, his offence would respond really well. Unfortunately there is nobody on the team that can do what he does right now. I think he deserves 6.

[Rick M.]

According to Eklund (yeah, I know) Calgary is talking to the Sens re Mike Hoffman.

[Monahan For Mayor]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

According to Eklund (yeah, I know) Calgary is talking to the Sens re Mike Hoffman.

Mike Hoffman is exactly the type of player this team needs. However a player of his caliber doesn't come cheap.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

According to Eklund (yeah, I know) Calgary is talking to the Sens re Mike Hoffman.

I would prefer the Flames went hard after Stone. Way better fit for the team. And yes, the cost would be substantial. I would be thinking Backlund, Brodie, and couple of prospects (Shinkaruk and Kylington) for Stone and Ceci, with the Sens including a couple of minor leaguers for balance.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by New Era

I would prefer the Flames went hard after Stone. Way better fit for the team. And yes, the cost would be substantial. I would be thinking Backlund, Brodie, and couple of prospects (Shinkaruk and Kylington) for Stone and Ceci, with the Sens including a couple of minor leaguers for balance.

That is a pretty reasonable deal but weakens the Flames enter depth substantially unless they flip a winger or another D for a centre?

Does Bennett go back down the middle in this scenario?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by New Era

I would prefer the Flames went hard after Stone. Way better fit for the team. And yes, the cost would be substantial. I would be thinking Backlund, Brodie, and couple of prospects (Shinkaruk and Kylington) for Stone and Ceci, with the Sens including a couple of minor leaguers for balance.

I don't think Ottawa would move Stone. He's young enough that he'd be viewed as part of things going forward.

Hoffman would be cool, and his contract lines up pretty closely with Treliving's seemingly defined "first window".

[sureLoss]

Friedman already said he gets the sense that Ottawa won't move Stone even if they decide to blow up the team.

[bubbsy]

Backlund is a asset of little value to the Sens so i doubt he's on the table.

If the flames do decide to part ways with backlund before the trade deadline, it would be as a rental for a team going all in as a cup contender this year (who couldn't use more depth at Center??). That being said, i think it's a far likelier situation where he plays out his contract, and deals with his future status in the offseason.

[TheScorpion]

I bet Eklund read that thread on HFBoards about the Flames and Mike Hoffman and just started writing.