I don't talk bad about my boss. I have an excellent working relationship with them and hope that my team feels the same way about me (though I am okay if they don't).
There are enough resources out there where people can be effective bosses and not be the target of being made fun of on a regular basis.
That’s great, but most people talk about other people. What’s said isn’t necessarily even true, but we all vent about our superiors- be it bosses, parents etc.
I don’t really know what you mean by the last paragraph. It doesn’t have anything to do with resources; some bosses/coaches/managers just aren’t very good at aspects of their job and it’s human nature to bitch about it. In fact, I’d argue that it’s actually unifying in a way to vent about your superiors.
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I think "acting as their agent" would need to be flushed out far far more thoroughly.
If you were tasked with recording a conversation with a client from your boss and then giving it to him for other uses, that's a lot different then being an employee at McDonald's taking a video of a racist tirade of a customer who came in and not using it for any commercial purpose.
Everyone knows the Sens are a joke of a franchise and this just adds to the circus. however the joke know as Sportsnet continues to air the Video (1min) although its obviously sensitive to the organization and they want to sweep it under the carpet. I would hope they would have more respect to continue to air it even though the video has been removed.
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No he wasn't. He should have been tipped off by the camera which likely made it legal in Boston, but he's always maintained he was unaware. Which seems reasonable or he wouldn't have said what he said.
Yes. Why is that so hard to comprehend? Good work environments exist out there.
A good work environment is like a good family.
Still full of plenty of venting, disagreements and occasionally wanting to punch each other in the face.
But this is just another bunch of self entitled players, maybe if you I don't know acted like professionals and shut the F up in a public area where you could be recorded.
Matt Duchene is supposed to be a veteran, a star and a leader on his team and for him to do something this stupid is amazing.
Oh and chances are, if you work for a company and get recorded bad mouthing your boss and it hits twitter, your butt is fired.
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I think "acting as their agent" would need to be flushed out far far more thoroughly.
If you were tasked with recording a conversation with a client from your boss and then giving it to him for other uses, that's a lot different then being an employee at McDonald's taking a video of a racist tirade of a customer who came in and not using it for any commercial purpose.
That's interesting. Still I have to be honest that seems like a pretty gray line to me and very poor from a clarity perspective... Having an employee on the clock recording someone and trying to establish whether or not it was as a private citizen or an act of the company sounds like it would be a nightmare.
I always understood the law saying I can't be recorded by businesses or government agencies to include their employees. And personally I would be pretty upset at any employees I ever caught recording customers on their own initiative. Good thing for me to make sure any companies I work for have in any future employee terms and conditions . Anyway thx for discussing.
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No he wasn't. He should have been tipped off by the camera which likely made it legal in Boston, but he's always maintained he was unaware. Which seems reasonable or he wouldn't have said what he said.
I could be mistaken, or maybe just the semantics of recording vs streaming, but I thought he asked the driver what that was (the camera) and the driver told him that he was live-streaming this on Periscope.
Edit: Okay, I guess he only clued in at the end of the trip, so not really the same thing then.
Haha, Duchene's gone from one situation to another. I'm not defending the guy but I honestly feel anyone associated with the Senators franchise has one foot out the door.
Honestly, the amount of people knocking duchene for this is rather fascinating in that this is just another paving stone in the poorly constructed sidewalk that is the senators.
I imagine like a few others here that what was said about the Flames coaching staff last year would make what Duchene said Kid'n'play in comparison. And let's not forget that none of the other players really jumped up to defend the coaches. Sounds like Duchene was just saying what everyone was already thinking.
Why would the Senators players ever think an Uber driver in Phoenix would give a damn if they played for the Senators? Don't the Coyotes love playing there because nobody cares who they are? Yet Matt Duchene's star power is enough to get this on the internet? It's probably the last thing they ever thought would happen.
They weren't rude to their driver, I'm sure they tipped him, and that driver is a piece of crap for putting that online.
That said, it's ####ing hilarious to watch these guys mercilessly shred their assistant coach. This is under the Deadspin article about the story.
“Here you are #### talking me in the car. Still #### talking me. And more #### talking. And that pretty much wraps it up. Good meeting, guys.”
The Sens are nothing if not a show.
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Still full of plenty of venting, disagreements and occasionally wanting to punch each other in the face.
I think there's a different between arguments and anger when people genuinely respect each other instead of what was seen in this video. Then again I never played hockey, so maybe this is how hockey players talk about their bench bosses all the time.
I am not familiar with us laws, didnt realize the sens were there. Was thinking Canada. Wow that is brutal privacy legislation... That is not the case here. You need consent to record someone... Like even a doctor for example many people think they have a right to record
The calgary transit stuff, they can record if they've done a privacy review making sure they keep the data safe and have authority to record under some piece of legislation but they could never disclose it unless they have consent or there is a public safety concern or some other express authorization in an act so you're not really at risk there if you're an average joe ripping on your boss.
Canada is one party consent. It would be legal here. When they ask they are being polite and/or doing good p.r.
But this is just another bunch of self entitled players, maybe if you I don't know acted like professionals and shut the F up in a public area where you could be recorded.
Matt Duchene is supposed to be a veteran, a star and a leader on his team and for him to do something this stupid is amazing.
I don't get this. The players seem to have a very legitimate beef they're complaining about, and one that's not surprising. It's a bit embarrassing for the team that this gets out, but the bigger issue here should be that their special teams coaching is a joke.
It's not the first time I've heard of players complaining that coaches do stuff like video meetings seemingly only because they know they're supposed to now. It's "professionalization" through empty gestures. Useless meetings are the scourge of many workplaces, but it's especially aggravating for players who have limited free time to begin with and always have other things they should also be working on.
Tuning out of a useless meeting isn't entitlement, it's protecting your sanity and saving mental energy for more relevant things.
Honestly I wish when coaches are this bad, players would be MORE open about it.
There's useless coaches in hockey that have no business getting paid to do what they do, and only survive because the details of why and how they're bad isn't discussed openly enough.
It brings the sport down, and those people should be cast out like the dead weight they are.
I hope the Senators don't see this as a reason to discipline players, but as a reason to question their coaching.
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Everyone knows the Sens are a joke of a franchise and this just adds to the circus. however the joke know as Sportsnet continues to air the Video (1min) although its obviously sensitive to the organization and they want to sweep it under the carpet. I would hope they would have more respect to continue to air it even though the video has been removed.
Yeah, I kind of think it was a dick move by the uber driver to release this. Everyone vents about their work places and their bosses. I think most people would dread the idea that their venting was being recorded and used against them. Players are human like everyone else.
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Honestly, the amount of people knocking duchene for this is rather fascinating in that this is just another paving stone in the poorly constructed sidewalk that is the senators.
The Avalanche immediately went from dumpster fire to a good team after trading him and that a Senators team that the season before was one game away from playing in the Stanley Cup finals became a dumpster fire after acquiring him. Maybe it's just pure coincidence or maybe he's a little toxic. I imagine as always the answer is somewhere in between.
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What a scummy Uber driver. Like it or not, people badmouth their bosses all the time. Players will say things like this off-the-record and that's why it should stay off-the-record.
Exactly. The headline of the story shouldn't be what the Sens player were saying. It should be about a POS uber driver who thought it would be cool to air the team's dirty laundry in the confines of his vehicle. Dbag move.
If it's fair game to air this footage, it's fair game for this drivers' name and photo to be released alongside a warning about just how creepy it is to record people as you drive them and then upload it. If it was a car full of pretty drunk girls laughing and giggling about their boyfriends and footage got uploaded, it would be seen as a pretty creepy move. This should be no different.
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keep tap dancing for a bunch of guys son - I've got it good where it counts boy
. Anyway thx for discussing.
