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Old 02-26-2019, 10:26 PM   #121
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I’d like to move Brodie for an upgrade on the second line. Maybe W Nylander.
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Old 02-26-2019, 10:41 PM   #122
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Brodie's going to wind up with over 40 points and a +30 ish.

He's going to have trade value.
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Old 02-26-2019, 11:23 PM   #123
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Brodie's going to wind up with over 40 points and a +30 ish.

He's going to have trade value.
Isn’t that the type of player/results we want to trade FOR not trade AWAY?

I’m torn on Brodie...he’s been serviceable at a good cap hit.

How does the expansion draft impact trading or keeping Brodie?
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Old 02-26-2019, 11:39 PM   #124
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Isn’t that the type of player/results we want to trade FOR not trade AWAY?

I’m torn on Brodie...he’s been serviceable at a good cap hit.
That cap hit expires July 1st 2020, along with Hamonic's. Brodie is the type of player any team wants, Flames included, but he's in for a big long term contract and the salary cap is a real thing that exists. How can a team sign both Hamonic and Brodie to 5+ year deals when Andersson, Kylington and Valimaki are all in the wing. Have to be prudent in this situation.

Some interesting destinations and trades out there.
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Old 02-26-2019, 11:41 PM   #125
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I’d like to move Brodie for an upgrade on the second line. Maybe W Nylander.
I’m not sure we can afford him, even with Brodie going the other way...
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Old 02-27-2019, 12:10 AM   #126
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That cap hit expires July 1st 2020, along with Hamonic's. Brodie is the type of player any team wants, Flames included, but he's in for a big long term contract and the salary cap is a real thing that exists. How can a team sign both Hamonic and Brodie to 5+ year deals when Andersson, Kylington and Valimaki are all in the wing. Have to be prudent in this situation.

Some interesting destinations and trades out there.
I think this is what the people who want to keep Brodie keep ignoring when they argue against trading him..

Gio - not going anywhere
Brodie (UFA '20) - ???????????
Hanifin - big part of the future
Hamonic (UFA '20) - likely target to re-sign due to uniqueness within group
Andersson - big part of the future
Kylington - big part of the future or trade chip
Valimaki - big part of the future
Stone (UFA '20) - likely '19 offseason trade target
Fantenberg (UFA '19) - likely target to re-sign as cheap depth
Prout (UFA '19) - likely a target to re-sign as cheap depth

Unless we trade one of Kylington, Brodie or Hamonic how do we fit everyone into a group that will most assuredly have Gio, Hanifin, Valimaki and Andersson in its top 6?

The real discussion is about who to keep between those 3..

1) Top 4 LHed dman who is UFA in '20, approaching 30, will demand a raise on current contract of $4.65mill AAV

2) Top 4 RHed dman who is a UFA in '20, approaching 30, will demand a raise on current contract of $3.86mill AAV, wants to stay in Western Canada, has a unique skillset within our group (RHed, defensive dman with size, grit)

3) Young dman who has been developing steadily in the AHL since the age of 19, still on ELC, extremely high potential heading into draft year before plummeting to 2nd round by the time the draft rolled around, has rebounded nicely proving he is already an NHL calibre dman

What 2 do you pick to keep if you had to choose one to move on from?

..because the team has 3 options:

- keep all of them and let one of Brodie/Hamonic walk as FA in '20
- keep all of them and re-sign them all and have 7 high end guys, 1 of which needs to sit every night (if its a young guy he isn't developing via playing NHL games regularly)
- trade one of them

When you consider everything how does it not make sense the team trades one of them?

Make your choice who.
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Old 02-27-2019, 07:29 AM   #127
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I’m not sure we can afford him, even with Brodie going the other way...
I’d imagine this will be Frolik’s last year here. Cap is supposed to go up to around 83mil. Should be able to fit him in. I’d like to continue to get younger.
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Old 02-27-2019, 11:06 AM   #128
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I’d imagine this will be Frolik’s last year here. Cap is supposed to go up to around 83mil. Should be able to fit him in. I’d like to continue to get younger.
And Smith's contract goes away and hopefully Rittich steps up. If so, he's at a lower hit. That changes if Treliving targets a "name" goalie in the offseason.
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Old 02-27-2019, 12:07 PM   #129
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I’d like to see a Talbot, Rittich combo. Both at 2 years roughly 2.5 per
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Old 02-27-2019, 12:12 PM   #130
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I’d like to see a Talbot, Rittich combo. Both at 2 years roughly 2.5 per
I also think that that would be amazing, but fully expect Talbot to extend with Philadelphia. He and Carter Hart are apparently BFFs.
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Old 02-27-2019, 12:21 PM   #131
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I’d like to see a Talbot, Rittich combo. Both at 2 years roughly 2.5 per
I would be happy with that. Talbot will rebound after his terrible year with the Oilers. Though I'm not sure even with Talbot's terrible season that the Flames could sign him to a contract lower than $3.5 per.
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