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Old 11-03-2020, 01:04 PM   #141
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Neither Capfriendly or sites like TSN are listing the Rangers of having bonuses rolled over from last season.

It's Dallas with a 3M roll-over: https://www.tsn.ca/13-nhl-teams-will...ason-1.1517304
CF does, if I'm reading it right.
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Old 11-03-2020, 01:05 PM   #142
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cf does, if i'm reading it right.
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/rangers
"CARRYOVER BONUS OVERAGES $0"?
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Old 11-03-2020, 01:06 PM   #143
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https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/rangers
"carryover bonus overages $0"?
In red at the top:
BONUS CUSHION PENALTY: $3,950,000

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That's not rolled over bonuses from last year. You're mistaken what that number means.

You can exceed the cap by 7.5% due to potential bonuses. With an 81.5M cap, that's $6.11M. The total potential bonuses for the Rangers are $10,062,500. $10.06M-$6.11M=$3.952M
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But it's still a $3.95M penalty in cap space by the sounds of it, which I think was the initial point regardless of the source of that missing available cap space.
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Old 11-03-2020, 01:40 PM   #146
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The implication is hugely different.

(For simplicity let's assume Strome is the last player they need to sign and the roster is as indicated on CF.)

Rangers could sign Strome for just under 7M this year (obviously they won't sign him to anywhere near that) and be cap-compliant, although right up to the max they can go to.

Then, the only way they are faced with cap-repercussions next season, is if their young players earn more than 3.95M in bonuses. The difference, upwards of 6.11M, would then be an actual penalty next season.

If, however, the Rangers were to sign Strome to that 4.5M walk-away-zone, then they are obviously cap-compliant this year and only face cap-penalty next season if their young players earn ~7M of their 10M bonuses.

And then of course next season the Rangers lose nearly 15M on cap simply due to Smith's contract expiring, Lundqvist, Shatternkirk and Spooner's buyout differences so they certainly have no cap-concerns next season unless they get 3 of the 4 top UFAs pretty much.

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Neither Capfriendly or sites like TSN are listing the Rangers of having bonuses rolled over from last season.

It's Dallas with a 3M roll-over: https://www.tsn.ca/13-nhl-teams-will...ason-1.1517304
Yeah I meant current season bonus overages.
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Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
NYR ask arbitrator for two-year deal in Brendan Lemieux’s case at $950K & $1.075M. Player ask is $2M.
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NYR ask arbitrator for two-year deal in Brendan Lemieux’s case at $950K & $1.075M. Player ask is $2M.
Arbitrator: $1.5 for 1.5 years.
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This one might be interesting if it gets to hearing. The midpoint is above the walkaway threshold. Hearing is Nov 5.

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Arbitration filings for Ryan Strome: NYR at $3.6M; player at $5.7M
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NYR and Ryan Strome settle before arbitration
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NYR ask arbitrator for two-year deal in Brendan Lemieux’s case at $950K & $1.075M. Player ask is $2M.
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#Rangers have settled with F Brendan Lemieux on a 2 year deal with an AAV of $1,550,000

2020-21: $1,450,000
2021-22: $1,650,000
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Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
FLA & Mackenzie Weegar have a three-year deal at a $3.25M AAV

All Arbitration cases are now done. Out of the 26 players that filed by arbitration only Tyler Bertuzzi went to hearing. Everyone else managed to sign with their respective teams before the hearing.
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