2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[pokerNhockey]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

Sam Gagner once had an 8 point game, no one mistakes him for an all star. If your using such a small sample size then technically Foo is on pace for a 41 goal NHL season.

Ganger had a 8 point game in his late 20's. he also put up a 50 point season after leaving the Oilers where he was saddled with poor line mates. I think the difference between our points about Bennett and Foo can be demonstrated by the fact that you needed to qualify your point with "technically". And maybe foo is a 41 goal scorer, if so I will be overjoyed.

And again being saddled to poor linemates is a false narrative. He spent 5% of his time with Brouwer and Jankowski did fine with Hathaway as his winger.

Not sure how Jankowski's linemates is relevant to trying to figure out why Bennetts points dipped season to season? For that you need to compare who Bennett played with each time. Are you saying you think Janko and Hathaway are = Backland & Frolik?

[jonkaupp]

The problem with the whole argument on the past few pages is that it started beacause someone suggested including Bennett in a trade for a super star goalie (in the trade speculation thread mind you) and the usual Bennet stans going insane that everyone just wants to trade him before he develops. Suggesting to include Bennett in a trade that nets you a superstar, particularly at this point in his stalling Flames career, is not an outlandish idea. The only thing outlandish is the idea that bennett has the value to net said player, not that trading him would be a terrible thing for the team to even consider.

Bennett still might work out. But if he is part of a trade that upgrades the team then that should be viewed favorably.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by jonkaupp

The problem with the whole argument on the past few pages is that it started beacause someone suggested including Bennett in a trade for a super star goalie (in the trade speculation thread mind you) and the usual Bennet stans going insane that everyone just wants to trade him before he develops.

Actually, that was cleared up real quick with “Bennett isn’t valuable enough to land Bobrobsky” What kicked it off was the regular haters losing their mind after one pre-season game.

That said, this was all more interesting than “what is the definition of discount”

I don’t think there’s a single poster here who wouldn’t trade Bennett to secure an all-star goalie, even if that’s pretty much impossible. What a lot of posters reject is the idea that Bennett is waiver fodder. Because that’s a bad take.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I would way rather he earned an 8M contract than support the salary structure. This was the #1 ranked player by central scouting. Third liners grow on trees, we don't need to develop them

Yeah, that is true and I would like that too. It is never a bad problem to have when all your 1st rounders turn into stars.

But I really do feel that Bennett is going to develop into a nice supporting play at least.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Todd Bertuzzi. Boom.

18 goals in his 1st year
10 goals in his 2nd
13 goals in his 3rd
8 goals in a shortened 4th season
25 in his 5th
25 in his 6th
36 in his 7th
46 in his 8th

And Bertuzzi played a power game much like Bennett does.

Development isn't always linear. Just because a player struggles in his early 20's does not mean he's doomed. That's reality. There's really endless examples of players who broke out in their mid 20's. Just because Bennett went high and entered the NHL early does not mean he can't be one of them

Lots of people here wanted BackLund traded some saying he was injury prone.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

Lots of people here wanted BackLund traded some saying he was injury prone.

Backlund regressed for one year, not three.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Backlund regressed for one year, not three.

But what has Bennett regressed to?

The sample size isn't significant enough to suggest he regressed. A lot of players are still prospects at age 22, so in order to say he regressed, you would have to assume that his rookie year was his best. I don't think that is fair.

The issue with Bennett is that his development as a prospect has been on display for everyone because he has been in the NHL the whole time. Maybe he won't start progressing more, but, it is too early to tell.

I do agree that next season is critical for him, but at this point, I feel the fanbase needs to be a little more patient.

[iloveicedhockey]

Any trade rumours or speculation today?

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

I hope I’m wrong about Bennett, I would love nothing more than to eat a giant plate of crow this season and there is a small chance that he could still develop into a first line winger. But given his pattern of regression, I think the chances are slim to none. And again, if he doesn’t become a top line guy there is nothing wrong with having a player like him as a solid bottom six guy.

lol

[Pickle Juice]

Originally Posted by iloveicedhockey

Any trade rumours or speculation today?

How about Nick Ritchie? Ducks are having a hard time getting him signed.

We were rumoured to be very high on him at the draft and there was plenty of talk that we were going to grab him over Bennett. We could definitely use a guy like him.

Johnny, Money, Lindy
Chucky, Backlund, Neal
Ritchie, Ryan, Czarnik
Bennett, Jankowski, Frolik

[MrMike]

What RFA offers do we have the picks for?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by MrMike

What RFA offers do we have the picks for?

https://www.capfriendly.com/offer-sheet-calculator

[Heavy Jack]

Offer sheeting Nurse for like 5.5 would be hilarious hahahahaha

[shogged]

If we had a second round pick, I’d offer sheet nurse @ 4 million x 1 year in a heartbeat.

[bubbsy]

Great, now i'm going to be spending all day hopeful for Tkachuk contract news...

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#Flames morning skate in Beijing, btw, is at 8:30 p.m. MT tonight (Tuesday). So, uh, watch for Tkachuk news later this evening.

[Toonage]

Its injury related unfortunately. Sounds like nothing serious though

[SuperMatt18]

Please don't be an injury...

Edit: Sounds like he left yesterday's practice early with a minor injury. Guessing he sits out tomorrow mornings game then.

[bax]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Great, now i'm going to be spending all day hopeful for Tkachuk contract news...

It's a little weird to tease news regarding an injury isn't it?

[Ozy_Flame]

Not really, if they are having practice he's probably on the ice but not hopeful for the next game. But to your point, it's more of an update rather than "news".

[bubbsy]

Ugh, well thanks for nothing Toonage