05-19-2021, 10:46 AM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
Probably the last time this core will be together.
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05-19-2021, 10:46 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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So a win today drops them 2 draft spots pre-lottery? If they do win hopefully karma finally gives them something for going down fighting and they lock up a lottery spot, but it will be just so 2021 Flames to win a game in late May that absolutely does not matter only to hurt the team lol.
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05-19-2021, 10:48 AM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
So a win today drops them 2 draft spots pre-lottery? If they do win hopefully karma finally gives them something for going down fighting and they lock up a lottery spot, but it will be just so 2021 Flames to win a game in late May that absolutely does not matter only to hurt the team lol.
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Arizona doesn't get a pick this season.. but I do agree with you:
They will win today and the 11th pick will win the lottery
or
They will lose today and 12th pick will win the lottery
Life of a Flames fan..
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05-19-2021, 10:48 AM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
Probably the last time this core will be together.
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I sure hope so. I was over this core a couple of years ago.
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05-19-2021, 10:52 AM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
Arizona doesn't get a pick this season.. but I do agree with you:
They will win today and the 11th pick will win the lottery
or
They will lose today and 12th pick will win the lottery
Life of a Flames fan..
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I feel like we are forgetting that third option of winning the lottery but drafting a total bust because of the lost covid season
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05-19-2021, 10:53 AM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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So what are the permutations with a win/loss with regards to draft position?
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05-19-2021, 10:54 AM
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#27
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
So what are the permutations with a win/loss with regards to draft position?
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Lose in any fashion, they own the 11th-best odds. Win in any fashion, they own the 12th-best odds.
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05-19-2021, 10:55 AM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I sure hope so. I was over this core a couple of years ago.
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Treliving may say there were no moves to make last offseason to shake up the core but I think it was a massive mistake to not make significant changes after losing 3 straight to Dallas to exit the bubble last year.
It is one of the reasons I am not convinced he will survive beyond this season
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05-19-2021, 10:55 AM
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#29
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Having watched all this stuff unfold for a few weeks, I honestly wonder if we would have seen more kids play if the media didn't keep asking him about it.
He really seems to be annoyed these days. Might be doing the opposite of what the media is clamouring for.
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05-19-2021, 10:58 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Calgary
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Do we get 11th pick or 12th pick... let's waste 3 hours watching to find out.
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05-19-2021, 10:58 AM
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#31
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Treliving may say there were no moves to make last offseason to shake up the core but I think it was a massive mistake to not make significant changes after losing 3 straight to Dallas to exit the bubble last year.
It is one of the reasons I am not convinced he will survive beyond this season
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I don't know ...
There was a lot of smoke in the air around moves that didn't happen. They very may not have happened because:
a) ownership didn't approve of the moves
b) ownership agreed that they weren't getting enough for their assets
if that's the case they are very much in the loop as to why there weren't any changes last off season.
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05-19-2021, 11:00 AM
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#32
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Looooooooooooooch
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Finally we can end this misery
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05-19-2021, 11:00 AM
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#33
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Franchise Player
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Given the precedent set with the Devils who were included in the draft lottery in 2014 ( https://www.nhl.com/news/2014-nhl-dr...esday/c-714727), the Flames would actually have less chance to win the lottery if they go to OT this game regardless of win.
Plus they would fall below Arizona in the subsequent rounds.
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05-19-2021, 11:00 AM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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At least Phillips is getting a game in.
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05-19-2021, 11:02 AM
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#36
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
Arizona doesn't get a pick this season.. but I do agree with you:
They will win today and the 11th pick will win the lottery
or
They will lose today and 12th pick will win the lottery
Life of a Flames fan..
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I thought we were running with the "it's a bad year to win the 1st overall" narrative. Save your luck for the next two drafts.
I bet Canuck fans are running that too. They've been complaining about being shafted for the 1st overall since their inception. It'd be funny if they win it in a bad year and are also fan pressured into taking Luke Hughes.
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05-19-2021, 11:04 AM
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#37
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I sure hope so. I was over this core a couple of years ago.
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Ya its bad enough watching this group in isolation, but man after taking in a few of the playoff games south of the border you realize just how far behind the good teams the Flames really are.
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05-19-2021, 11:09 AM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
He really seems to be annoyed these days. Might be doing the opposite of what the media is clamouring for.
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If he's actually resorting to this kind of stuff then the Flames are in worse trouble than we thought. The whole grumpy pants act is getting really old.
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05-19-2021, 11:18 AM
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#40
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
The whole grumpy pants act is getting really old.
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So is all the people complaining about a Stanley Cup winning coach after half a Covid season with a roster we all know needs changes.
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