Was 100% fresh through the first 60 or 70 reviews. Respectably high average review score as well.
Listening to some of my favorite critics, sounds like there is going to be massive payoff for long time fans. That two day wait between reviews being released and going to the theater hasn't been this painful since the force awakens.
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Yea sorry I should have clarified now that technically there are 3 different Spiderman 2 movies.
The one I watched was the one with Dr.Oc, Maguire and Dunst.
I think the second third Spider-Man movie is sure to be better than the first third one, but the third second one wasn’t as good as the first second (though way better than the second second)
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Yup.. still love the OG Raimiverse. The first two just had two of the greatest villains put on screen. And superhero films are often only as good as their antagonist.
I liked Garfield and Stone a lot in TASM. They might the best SM leads for me. The difference with that series was the writing was a step below Raimiverse and MCU.
LIike the amazing Spider Man 2 was aggressively bad. I'm so glad they changed Foxx' look cause seeing Blue electro again would taint the awesomeness of the new film.
Ok well if we’re now considering SM3 to be in The Room territory, then I guess. But it’s still the worst movie of the bunch. It’s just so bad it looped back around and became watchable for the laughs.
That's exactly it: it's The Room of SM. So bad its good. Therefore I can't put it at the bottom.
As someone who has attended a The Room screening with Greg Sestero event, I have a certain level of appreciation for such films. Might not be shared by others.
Today Tobey's emo dance is cherished and celebrated. Sometimes things aren't appreciated until well after their time.
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Me and my son watched all of them in the last 3 weeks. For me SM3 is the only one I really didn't enjoy, people bash Topher, but I actual found James Franco the worst part of that movie, and didn't particularly like Churches performance either.
HC
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TASM
FFH
TASM2
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HC for the win because Keaton is my favorite villain so far, also I think Liz Allen-Toomes might be the best girlfriend Spidey has had so far, Spiderman stories at their core are about the dealing him trying to maintain normal relationships with his girlfriends while saving the world. SM2 might be a better story, but honestly Tobey just kind of annoys me, and the writing for Dunsts character does not hold up, it's clearly a man writing a damsel in distress in a bad way.
Just watching the Garfield movies now. I hadn't seen the Maguire trilogy in a long time, it was great. It was like a transitional movie between the grounded 90's effects and the CGI to come. I really enjoyed it all from the nostalgic shots to the music, everything.
The Garfield movies are... a step worse, but still an interesting take.
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Just watched the first Spider-Man and thought it was pretty bad.
The MJ falling in love with Peter Parker and saying Peter had always been there when all he did was creep on her window and not talk to her was essentially an incel fantasy.
Just watched the first Spider-Man and thought it was pretty bad.
The MJ falling in love with Peter Parker and saying Peter had always been there when all he did was creep on her window and not talk to her was essentially an incel fantasy.
The green goblin costume was so bad.
When you're casting Willem Dafoe for a role like the Green Goblin, you're clearly going for an element of camp. I thought they pulled if off just great. That suit is exactly the kind of suit an insane Willem Dafoe would make.
The comics Green Goblin would wear a more life-life mask/costume. That would be pretty difficult to pull off in live action. The more metallic costume was a great design choice. It was a little over the top, without looking totally crazy.
When you're casting Willem Dafoe for a role like the Green Goblin, you're clearly going for an element of camp. I thought they pulled if off just great. That suit is exactly the kind of suit an insane Willem Dafoe would make.
The comics Green Goblin would wear a more life-life mask/costume. That would be pretty difficult to pull off in live action. The more metallic costume was a great design choice. It was a little over the top, without looking totally crazy.
I also thought of the Green Goblin as being similar to the Joker. There has been a number of darker takes on the Joker without his costume being distracting. Make-up instead of a mask would help, but then you couldn't keep it a secret that he was Norman Osborn. Or just go with the Green Arrow hood thing that apparently is as convincing as glasses for a disguise.
The reason I don't really have an issue with the original Green Goblin look is that it had to get translated into the real world somehow. I agree that animatronic head looks amazing, but how does the character get there? Is it a mask? Is it his face now? How can he go between Norman and Goblin if his face s permanently changed?
The 'helmet' is a plausible thing he could have made in a few hours in his lab. But it did neuter Dafoe in those moments. Wish they could have found some sort of solution, tough tho.
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I also thought of the Green Goblin as being similar to the Joker. There has been a number of darker takes on the Joker without his costume being distracting. Make-up instead of a mask would help, but then you couldn't keep it a secret that he was Norman Osborn. Or just go with the Green Arrow hood thing that apparently is as convincing as glasses for a disguise.
This is a good call too. Having his face mostly hidden by a hood, maybe with some pointy ears coming out of it, probably could have worked. You'd still be hiding Dafoe though, although you'd see his mouth and menacing grin, which is why I thought they got him overall.
The reason I don't really have an issue with the original Green Goblin look is that it had to get translated into the real world somehow. I agree that animatronic head looks amazing, but how does the character get there? Is it a mask? Is it his face now? How can he go between Norman and Goblin if his face s permanently changed?
The 'helmet' is a plausible thing he could have made in a few hours in his lab. But it did neuter Dafoe in those moments. Wish they could have found some sort of solution, tough tho.
For sure. It was the most practical way of doing it.
If the movie were made today we'd get a Hulk (Jekyll and Hyde) version of Goblin where he could morph between the two easily.
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And you can't compare that costume to what they are doing now, you need to compare it to what was done at the time. This is coming off the tail end of the Batman movies where everything was a little over the top.
I thought Spider-Man's strength was they did such a great job of grounding the story in reality, while staying true to the source material. That movie came out almost 20 years ago..
The one problem I did have was him punching Doc Oct in the face and it not even phasing him... I mean he does have super strength. And even if he is holding back, why not hold back just enough to knock him out or severely daze him for the advantage? But I digress..
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