Cool coffee shop suggestions for teens/young adults?

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Sorry Sliver, I just don't get wanting the kids to go loiter around somewhere. The last thing I want to deal with when I patronize a business are a group of kids just hanging around.

They're not loitering; they're socializing at a coffee shop. They would be doing what you're supposed to do when you go to a coffee shop.

Do you also not understand why people loiter at movie theaters for two hours at a time?

[Jimmy Stang]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Sorry Sliver, I just don't get wanting the kids to go loiter around somewhere. The last thing I want to deal with when I patronize a business are a group of kids just hanging around.

That's right. Get these kids back onto their video games, iPads, and social media so we can complain about them being on their video games, iPads, and social media.

[PepsiFree]

Imagine walking into a coffee shop for a takeout coffee and getting upset because there are teens sitting in the seats you're not going to use instead of adults.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Sorry Sliver, I just don't get wanting the kids to go loiter around somewhere. The last thing I want to deal with when I patronize a business are a group of kids just hanging around.

Teenagers GMG as well, but if they're spending money then they have every right to be there. If their money isn't as good as your money then I dare you to explain that to the owner and see how that goes, unless you're spending more as an individual than an entire group of people.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Imagine walking into a coffee shop for a takeout coffee and getting upset because there are teens sitting in the seats you're not going to use instead of adults.

Or going to a coffee shop with friends hoping to grab a drink and snack and chat only to find all the tables are being hogged by teens (or anyone really) who have been sitting around for hours nursing a single cup of coffee.

When I was in my younger years Higher Ground in Kensington was the worst for this. People would sit there for hours with a single drink or food item while people walking through the door would struggle to find a place to sit and many times would just leave.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Or going to a coffee shop with friends hoping to grab a drink and snack and chat only to find all the tables are being hogged by teens (or anyone really) who have been sitting around for hours nursing a single cup of coffee.

When I was in my younger years Higher Ground in Kensington was the worst for this. People would sit there for hours with a single drink or food item while people walking through the door would struggle to find a place to sit and many times would just leave.

Sorry, guess you shouldn't try to loiter.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Or going to a coffee shop with friends hoping to grab a drink and snack and chat only to find all the tables are being hogged by teens (or anyone really) who have been sitting around for hours nursing a single cup of coffee.

When I was in my younger years Higher Ground in Kensington was the worst for this. People would sit there for hours with a single drink or food item while people walking through the door would struggle to find a place to sit and many times would just leave.

Yeah, but what is the actual profit margin on a cup of coffee? Like, 5000%? For that I think a nice place with a comfy couch to enjoy it isn't too much to ask.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Yeah, but what is the actual profit margin on a cup of coffee? Like, 5000%? For that I think a nice place with a comfy couch to enjoy it isn't too much to ask.

Very true and a place to sit should be afforded to all the customer. The issue becomes that some customers overstay or monopolize (loiter) the limited capacity that establishments have available which drives business away potentially.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Very true and a place to sit should be afforded to all the customer. The issue becomes that some customers overstay or monopolize (loiter) the limited capacity that establishments have available which drives business away potentially.

Rock and hard place. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Reputation for allowing loitering at tables means loss of business. Reputation for hustling customers out to make room for more means loss of business.

[CroFlames]

I get the sense that Silver's kids don't come from a broken home and are probably not troublemakers.

I would imagine if he's encouraging them to go to a cafe, they either have money of their own or he's giving them a few bucks himself so they don't just loiter at a place of business and cause disruption.

[PepsiFree]

How would one know, as a customer, if a group of teens has been loitering for hours unless they too had been loitering for hours?

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Very true and a place to sit should be afforded to all the customer. The issue becomes that some customers overstay or monopolize (loiter) the limited capacity that establishments have available which drives business away potentially.

lol, some of you are off your rocker. Like, my kids and their friends aren't bums. They'll order the dumbest, most overpriced drinks possible with the most syrup, sugar and whipped cream. You don't get free refills on those. They'll also order a huge stupid piece of overpriced cake or something as well. Then they'll stay a while, get hungry and thirsty again, and spend more.

I think you weirdos are confusing teenagers going to a coffee shop with the old men who sit in A&W and literally just order one seniors coffee and then get half a dozen free refills over the next two hours.

Coffee shops have to love regular customers. Aren't most businesses reliant on repeat customers?

And not liking teenagers? That's wild to me. They're the most fun age ever. I love being around them.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Very true and a place to sit should be afforded to all the customer. The issue becomes that some customers overstay or monopolize (loiter) the limited capacity that establishments have available which drives business away potentially.

I've spent 5+ hours at a Starbucks on multiple occasions doing work on a laptop. Do you view me (businessman) in the same light as teens who might be there 1-2 hours?

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I've spent 5+ hours at a Starbucks on multiple occasions doing work on a laptop. Do you view me (businessman) in the same light as teens who might be there 1-2 hours?

If you are sitting there for hours and not repeatedly buying things than yes I consider you to be loitering. If you are buying something every hour or so that is fine.

The same goes for any type of establishment whether it be a coffee shop, dine in restaurant, bar/pub or whatever. There is an expectation that you get served, consume in a reasonable amount of time and move on so that other customers can do the same. If you aren't continuously consuming then your time has to expire at some point.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I've spent 5+ hours at a Starbucks on multiple occasions doing work on a laptop. Do you view me (businessman) in the same light as teens who might be there 1-2 hours?

Well if you've purchased one coffee and sat there for 5 hours, yes, kinda; You have certainly overstayed your welcome. At least you are being quite and not annoying anyone else. But it is Starbucks so who GAF?

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Sliver

lol, some of you are off your rocker. Like, my kids and their friends aren't bums. They'll order the dumbest, most overpriced drinks possible with the most syrup, sugar and whipped cream. You don't get free refills on those. They'll also order a huge stupid piece of overpriced cake or something as well. Then they'll stay a while, get hungry and thirsty again, and spend more.

I think you weirdos are confusing teenagers going to a coffee shop with the old men who sit in A&W and literally just order one seniors coffee and then get half a dozen free refills over the next two hours.

Coffee shops have to love regular customers. Aren't most businesses reliant on repeat customers?

And not liking teenagers? That's wild to me. They're the most fun age ever. I love being around them.

Your kids might go to the shop and blow $20 on coffee and dessert but will their friends? Or will they send a message to meet at X shop and suddenly there are 10 or 12 teens taking up three tables with only a few contributing to the business by purchasing something.

[undercoverbrother]

I actually don't mind the kids and their friends hanging around our house.

You get to know them and can weed out the dicks pretty quickly.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Sliver

OMG, they both have passes at Trico and are there working out everyday.

Guys...I wasn't looking for tips and tricks on how to raise kids. Was looking for suggestions on local coffee shops. WTF is with this train wreck of a thread.

Maybe you should get the kids to volunteer down at the Drop In Centre?

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Your kids might go to the shop and blow $20 on coffee and dessert but will their friends? Or will they send a message to meet at X shop and suddenly there are 10 or 12 teens taking up three tables with only a few contributing to the business by purchasing something.

I'm just not sure what coffee shops you've been to where that happens. Before turning 18, my friends and I did coffee shops as our thing to do. These kids can't go to bars and clubs, but everyone likes hanging out in vibrant and/or chill public places, so coffee shops are a great go-to for this age.

I think you don't like this concept based on your ignorant and made-up scenario. You couldn't have made a better strawman if you had a 1/4 section of land.

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I actually don't mind the kids and their friends hanging around our house.

You get to know them and can weed out the dicks pretty quickly.

Oh totally, I love that as well. I just like to see them do and experience a range of things. Lately I've felt like we've "done" our house enough and I thought they might have a good time with a change of scenery. They're also my ticket to discovering new and good music, so I want to send them out to cool places to find some stuff for me.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Slava

Maybe you should get the kids to volunteer down at the Drop In Centre?

Haha, yeah, they're a little too close to being chips off the old block for that one to fly.